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Re: MSN virus
Todd Haverkos (Feb 08)
xiandu () latech edu writes:
Standard advice upon a confirmed malware infection is to rebuild the
box if you want to be sure you've gotten everything. You
unfortunately can't trust the tools to find everything, let alone
fix/remove everything without causing some destabilizing issues in the
OS.
Backup data to an external drive, repartition, reformat, and reinstall
the OS from original optical media behind a hardware firewall that's
all by...
Re: Transparent vs Routed Firewall
Alex (Feb 08)
Well the servers are either new or scheduled to be placed on a
different subnet either way so that's not a problem.
No. nothing of those.
exactly, that's why I asked
It does, thank you.
I think I'll stick to the "old-fashioned" routed for now but I'd like
to see the other way some time as well.
Re: SMS Banking
Tim Clewlow (Feb 08)
You mentioned the "unprotected nature of SMS and mobiles in general"
and others have brought up the fact that GSM itself can be trivially
cracked ($1500 for a USRP, d/l some software, and anyone can do it).
There is also the problem of phones getting cracked and client apps
being compromised. It is not difficult to imagine a viral attack
gathering authentication data from a known (banking) app on mobile
devices and sending it all to a...
Re: SMS Banking
Menerick, John (Feb 08)
Comments inline
Large risks. Take your basic one form of authentication modeled risk but multiply it greatly due to the gravity of the
information behind said SMS auth. Previous email from Craig Wright is a great start.
Everything from GSM cracking, to fuzzing via sms gateways/email providers.
Once you ignore the pages of using SMS for 2FA, http://www.google.com/search?&q=SMS+authentication should give you a
few pointers and case...
RE: SMS Banking
Thor (Hammer of God) (Feb 08)
And just how do you come up with the probability of compromising the SMS function and the user authentication method?
While little formulas may go well in meetings, this hardly helps the OP with his question. You also failed to note
that the overall risk figure you calculate has to be compared to something - what are you comparing it to? If
P(Compromise) turns out to be 42, what does he do with that information?
Regarding GSM, what...
RE: SMS Banking
Craig S. Wright (Feb 08)
The solution needs to be based on risk.
Where a system uses an SMS response with a separate system (such as a web
page), the probability that the banking user is compromised and a fraud is
committed, P(Compromise), can be calculated as:
P(Compromise) = P(C.SMS) x P(C.PIN)
Where: P(C.SMS) is the probability of compromising the SMS function and
P(C.PIN) is the compromise of the user authentication method
The user can...
Re: Transparent vs Routed Firewall
John Morrison (Feb 08)
Chris has the right idea. Transparent does make it easier if you have
a single un-routed network. Personally I would chop the network up and
put each group of devices in a separate network. You should group your
devices so that all those that do not require any security between
them are on the same layer 3 network. You can then route and firewall
between networks as you require.
As Chris points out transparent mode avoids having to rejig your IP...
Managed Security Services
mohannad . alkhalash (Feb 08)
Dear,
Managed Security Services (MSS) is an efficient approach to manage an organization's security needs. MSS is meant to
provide small, medium and large organizations the ability to leverage 24x7x365 security monitoring
and management through SOC which is "Security Operation center"in order to respond more efficiently to incidents and
become more proactive. Furthermore the functions of MSS include round-the-clock monitoring and...
Re: SMS Banking
Dennis Li (Feb 08)
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Re: [OT ish] Router vs Firewall - corporate environment
John Morrison (Feb 08)
Martin,
If you have a Cisco router that is one of the newer ISR-type then you
can add the firewall feature set to get all the same rules as a
stateful firewall. Depending on the volume of traffic, for internal
use It may be enough.
If you have a large network and use Cisco 6500 series switches you can
plug in a Firewall Services Module and it will do firewalling as fast
as any Cisco dedicated device. As all the routing will be done in the...
Re: SMS Banking
Markus Matiaschek (Feb 05)
Hi,
I'd just like to make some comments, i didn't think about a solution
for your problem.
First of all i think that my Budi wibowo got something wrong regarding
who is sending the PIN.
Second, GSM is cracked: http://reflextor.com/trac/a51 and can be
intercepted and decrypted. You should take this into account.
Third i think the only farely safe way to make money transfers is with
transaction numbers, TANs. German banks send mobileTANs to...
Re: SMS Banking
Agus 'Bosen' Supriadhie (Feb 05)
How about putting a random PIN sequense?
Only 2 or 3 part from the PIN randomly input
Let say input the first and the fith of the PIN
Randomly
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Re: SMS Banking
NetEvil (Feb 05)
Hi,
Maybe i'm too much paranoid ..and never seen an app like this before...
So i'm just pointing some thoughts about it...
SMS can easily been spoofed (once you have obtained the pin of
course...) and many "Smart" phones have often vulnerabilities to
exploit...
And i'm quite sure there are other weakness ..as you are describing
the communication and authentication...
maybe others can point you better on the subject...
However in...
Re: Re: MSN virus
taser3000 (Feb 05)
Actually I have heard of things like this going on in the increase. In fact I wound up talking with a guy the other day
who was looking for someone to write him a facebook login bot that would login and add friends to a specific group:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=442142825461#
Not something I trust in the slightest. Heres the kicker: he claims to have a password list to over 2K facebook
accounts. This just so happens to match what...
Re: SMS Banking
Brad Reaves (Feb 05)
One of the biggest problems will be a static pin.
SMS's are stored on user's phones in plain text. Users can't be trusted to delete every message that they send.
Users are also in the habit of leaving their phones about, where a villain could easily sift through the SMS log
(conveniently sorted automatically by phone number) for messages to the bank, see the pin, and transfer funds.
The attacker wouldn't necessarily have to be the one to receive...
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