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RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS
From: "Rod Trent" <rodtrent () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:14:24 -0500

With Altiris' acquisition of Wise Solutions today, this will improve
quickly.

SMS 2003 already tracks the patches installed. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:deppdm () ornl gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:10 AM
To: Matt Burnett; Steve; ZyberGeek () comcast net;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

Yes they can check the OS and Service Pack level.  However, their ability to
check what patches are installed was spotty at best.  They may have improved
this since I did my evalutation. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Burnett [mailto:marukka () mac com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:20 PM
To: Depp, Dennis M.; Steve; ZyberGeek () comcast net;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

I know they can check what OS the client is running.

On 11/29/03 8:40 AM, "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov> wrote:

Yes you can do this, but how do you identify which machines need 
hotfixes installed?



-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Burnett [mailto:marukka () mac com]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 10:59 PM
To: Depp, Dennis M.; Steve; ZyberGeek () comcast net; 
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

As far as installing hotfixes with altiris. CouldnĀ¹t you just use 
RapiDeploy and make a RIP that just executes the hotfix and push that 
out via the console?

On 11/26/03 5:56 AM, "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov> wrote:

We have recently installed SMS 2.0.  Before that we evaluated both 
Altiris and SMS.  Both products were very similar in setup, design 
and architecture.  There were two items that pushed us to choose SMS 
over Altiris.  First we have an Enterprise Agreement with Microsoft 
which includes the CALS for SMS.  This made the cost of implementing 
SMS very affordable.  Second Altiris lack the ease of deploying 
hotfixes that came with the SUS Feature Pack for SMS.  Both of these 
products require significant planning for a smooth installation.

Denny

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:securityfocus () delahunty com]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:59 PM
To: Depp, Dennis M.; ZyberGeek () comcast net; 
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

I'll assume you mean "wins" in terms of security.  I think the 
security areas/issues would resolve around:
  - encryption from the server to the desktop
  - system admin management access control
  - what else?

Network Computing covered some of the above issues but not in too 
much depth.  You could review sales technical literature from both 
products online for your comparison.

I tried getting SMS working years ago and would have rather hit 
myself in the head with a hammer, which I think we tried at one time 
during the deployment.  I have desktop management experience with 
LANdesk Manager when it was an Intel product and another product 
called Callisto Orbiter which was obtained by Novell.  We didn't 
really get into security issues with those products but I can see the 
merit of your question about security and desktop management, don't 
want some unauthorized person pushing some worm/keylogger etc to all 
your hundreds or thousands of computers for sure.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov>
To: <ZyberGeek () comcast net>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS


What kind of desktops?  All windows or a mix of Windows, Mac and Unix?
If all Windows clients, I think SMS with the SUS feature pack wins over
Altiris hands down.  If you are running a mix, SMS is still a
possibility, but you will need to purchase some add on tools from
Altiris to finis the task.

Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: ZyberGeek [mailto:ZyberGeek () comcast net]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:03 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

Between Microsoft SMS and Altiris Deployment Server, which product could
be
considered to be the better one for managing several hundred desktops
from a
security stand point?

Z.G.


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