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RE: Security for Notebooks
From: "Jon Pastore" <jpastore () idetech net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:57:50 -0400

I'm interested in this thread since I travel with my notebook...where as
I don't have as many as 300 (more like 5) I seriously value my device.
My only problem with phone home software is what if they are not
stealing it for data? Just for the value of taking it and selling it? I
mean they could just boot from a cd or something wipe it and sell it.  I
guess 90% of the time the thief isn't that smart or looking to steal
data but even so if that was goal I would I just remove the drive and
with a conversion kit put it in a normal pc to try and mount the disk
for analysis...

This is why I use PGP/GPG for sensitive data...I also carry around a USB
biometric thumb drive which is really kewl...won't decrypt your data off
the drive with out a matching thumb print...

Back to my point is there a better solution then this? And (granted I
haven't looked through all the links of the apps) aren't all of these
Win32 apps? I run Linux solely on one of my notebooks...

Jon Pastore RHCE, President
IDE Tech, Inc.
(954) 360-0393 Office
(954) 428-0442 Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian [mailto:e2chameleon () btopenworld com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:19 AM
To: jotero () SMARTEKH com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Security for Notebooks


Hi,

I'm not sure of the availability of some of these services/systems in
Mexico but it will give you an idea of some of the things out there.

Computrace (http://www.computrace.com), Webdetect
(http://www.webdetect.com), CyberAngel (http://www.thecyberangel.com),
Home Base and Homing Pigeon (http://ww.zeasoft.com) all allow for the
tracing of equipment by identifying its location when the stolen kit is
connected to a phone line. Webdetect also allows for the hard disks of
stolen equipment to be securely wiped remotely. Thief Monitor
(http://www.burrotech.com/thiefmon.php) is a keylogger application that
you install on your equipment and then activate via a web site in order
to collect enough information to locate your equipment and/or identify
the thief.

There are a number of proximity systems available that can trigger
alarms if equipment is taken out of designated areas. Depending on the
complexity of the system you could integrate it into a physical access
control system to lock a door if someone attempts to leave a building
with equipment without appropriate authorisation. Bewater
(http:/www.bewater.com), Johnson Controls
(http://www.johnsoncontrols.com) and the Keyless Lock Store
(http://www.nokey.com) are some of the many suppliers of proximity
access control systems. There's an article regarding this type of
technology at
http://www.constructnet.com/indevlop/featurea/smartcards.html.

Caveo Anti-Theft is a device that fits into your Laptop PC card slot. It
uses motion sensing technology to detect whether you laptop is being
stolen or simply moved. It can be set to encrypt the laptop and sound an
alarm (up to 110 decibels) or even playback a recorded message if a
theft attempt is detected. A number of arming options are available
including at start up, when the screensaver is activated and when a
combination of movements is detected. For more information go to
http://www.caveo.com. The technology has also been licensed by Targus
(http://www.targus.com) and is used in their Defcon MDP product.

Cheers,


Ian.

e2chameleon Information Security Resource
http://www.e2chameleon.btinternet.co.uk

-------Original Message-------

From: JAVIER OTERO
Date: 23 May 2003 19:17:28
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Security for Notebooks

I am serching for two diferent solutions:

1) If the notebook is lost or stoned a software that can inform, via
internet, the ip where is connected.
2) If some one takes the notebook from the bilding any chip or similar
that alerts, may by using an arc or similar

this is for about 300.

Thanks

Javier Otero
Grupo Smartekh
Antivirus Expertos
Bussiness Continuity
Inftegrity
5243-4782 al 84 Ext.300
México, D.F.


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