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Counter measures (was military strike)
From: "J Kallberg" <jk () cyberdefense com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:36:32 -0500

So what are the counter measures possible after someone tampered
with a critical infrastructure? (Assume they are in hostile part
of the world and can't be reached with regular law enforcement)?

1. Counter hacking - serving what purpose?
2. Diplomatic - would Syria care less?
3. Trying to hook off from DNS etc - they keep getting new ones, etc.
4. No counter activity, just building higher walls around the infrastructure..
5. .....
6. ....

JK









----- Original Message ----- 
From: "McGill, Lachlan" <mcgilll1 () anz com>
To: "Meritt James" <meritt_james () bah com>; "Raymer Dan" <DRaymer () webmd net>
Cc: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: military strike possible?


I find it utterly astounding that anybody can think that "dropping the bomb" on a load of people is justification for 
retaliation on a digital strike. The whole world needs to get a grip.........

p.s. this is getting off the topic of "security-basics"!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Meritt James [mailto:meritt_james () bah com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2003 1:20 AM
To: Raymer Dan
Cc: 'security-basics () securityfocus com'
Subject: Re: military strike possible?


How would you expect to stop them?  I wasn't concerned with the
execution of the plan but with the inception.

"Raymer, Dan" wrote:

considering that intelligence can't even tell a Chinese embassy from a
warehouse or where senior leadership is having a meeting, how do they expect
to hit a bunch of teenage script kiddies (or heavens forbid, REAL crackers)
coordinating an attack via IRC?

-----Original Message-----
From: Meritt James [mailto:meritt_james () bah com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:11 AM
To: 'security-basics () securityfocus com'
Subject: military strike possible?


Going from the premptive strike philosophy demonstrated in Mideastern
countries, what are your thoughts on a military strike against (as yet
unseen) "cyberterrorists" a'la
http://www.msnbc.com/news/985295.asp?0si=- if there were extranational
agents tampering with identified components of the infrastructure to
the extent that they were risking human life?

--
James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA
Booz | Allen | Hamilton
phone: (410) 684-6566

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phone: (410) 684-6566

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