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RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS
From: "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:25:03 -0500


I do not consider encryption from server to desktop to be an issue.
Encryption can be accomplished by utilizing IPSEC if it is necessary.  I
do not consider encrypting this information on an internal network to be
critical.  For machines outside our internal network, I recommend using
a VPN to encrypt all traffic.  

In terms of security I considered the following:

- Identification of machines that need patches/service packs
- Pushing patches/service packs to machines
- Cost of solution.  This includes management costs of the system
- Impact on the end user

Other items I might consider (but didn't in my evaluation):
- Security model including delegation of responsibilities to other


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:securityfocus () delahunty com] 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:59 PM
To: Depp, Dennis M.; ZyberGeek () comcast net;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

I'll assume you mean "wins" in terms of security.  I think the security
areas/issues would resolve around:
    - encryption from the server to the desktop
    - system admin management access control
    - what else?

Network Computing covered some of the above issues but not in too much
depth.  You could review sales technical literature from both products
online for your comparison.

I tried getting SMS working years ago and would have rather hit myself
the head with a hammer, which I think we tried at one time during the
deployment.  I have desktop management experience with LANdesk Manager
it was an Intel product and another product called Callisto Orbiter
was obtained by Novell.  We didn't really get into security issues with
those products but I can see the merit of your question about security
desktop management, don't want some unauthorized person pushing some
worm/keylogger etc to all your hundreds or thousands of computers for

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov>
To: <ZyberGeek () comcast net>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

What kind of desktops?  All windows or a mix of Windows, Mac and Unix?
If all Windows clients, I think SMS with the SUS feature pack wins over
Altiris hands down.  If you are running a mix, SMS is still a
possibility, but you will need to purchase some add on tools from
Altiris to finis the task.


-----Original Message-----
From: ZyberGeek [mailto:ZyberGeek () comcast net]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:03 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

Between Microsoft SMS and Altiris Deployment Server, which product could
considered to be the better one for managing several hundred desktops
from a
security stand point?





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