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Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS
From: Matt Burnett <marukka () mac com>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:29:52 -0600

Ive used Altiris DS since it was LabExpert 3 and have gone to their
training. If you are considering DS don¹t bother going to training, its
useless, youll pay $1,000 for two lunches. Their trainers are morons and
their solution to fix a DS server that gives unknown errors is to reimage
the server! They never really went into security and since the introduction
of a web console I would be carefull. The management console does offer some
basic security features but not as much as I would like. I also don¹t know
what type of encryption they use for the Aclient password, which is used to
prevent anyone from remote controling a client machine. Other than thoses
security issues, the product does work fairly well, although watch out when
applying updates, sometimes they will break DS.

On 11/24/03 3:58 PM, "Steve" <securityfocus () delahunty com> wrote:

I'll assume you mean "wins" in terms of security.  I think the security
areas/issues would resolve around:
  - encryption from the server to the desktop
  - system admin management access control
  - what else?

Network Computing covered some of the above issues but not in too much
depth.  You could review sales technical literature from both products
online for your comparison.

I tried getting SMS working years ago and would have rather hit myself in
the head with a hammer, which I think we tried at one time during the
deployment.  I have desktop management experience with LANdesk Manager when
it was an Intel product and another product called Callisto Orbiter which
was obtained by Novell.  We didn't really get into security issues with
those products but I can see the merit of your question about security and
desktop management, don't want some unauthorized person pushing some
worm/keylogger etc to all your hundreds or thousands of computers for sure.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm () ornl gov>
To: <ZyberGeek () comcast net>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

What kind of desktops?  All windows or a mix of Windows, Mac and Unix?
If all Windows clients, I think SMS with the SUS feature pack wins over
Altiris hands down.  If you are running a mix, SMS is still a
possibility, but you will need to purchase some add on tools from
Altiris to finis the task.


-----Original Message-----
From: ZyberGeek [mailto:ZyberGeek () comcast net]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:03 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

Between Microsoft SMS and Altiris Deployment Server, which product could
considered to be the better one for managing several hundred desktops
from a
security stand point?






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