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Re: Secure host newbie - fun
From: Alvin Oga <alvin.sec () Virtual Linux-Consulting com>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:38:14 -0800 (PST)

hi ya shawn

There are some extremely educated guys on this list, even though it is a

"security basics" list. I'm not one of them, but they are here. If you


have any security questions I'm sure someone on the list can help you
out no 
problem, but I wouldn't count on becoming an expert by reading or
which is about 1/4 of a security-pro's diet. I'd say another 2/4'ths are

experience and another 1/4'th is skill.

i'd venture to say ... 95% of security is just people management ...
and 5% is implementing a techie solution

reading is good ..but should be 5% of your time ... 
and even better, go to informal security meetings ( user group meetings )

- you cannot make it too strict to restrict productivity
- you cannot leave it wide open so tom-dick-n-harry can see break into
  hr's salary PC and repost everybody's salary and benefits

- who is gonna get fired when a security breach occurs ???

- 90% of all security issues is internal ... not from outside the internet

.. on and on .. fun stuff 

knowing what is important and what is NOT is something that will be different
for each environment you're trying to secure

- i start from ..
        i assume a [cr/h]acker has root access in your firewall ... now protect your
        network and machines or whatever your "job" is

        - if you're comfortable .. than you're reasonably confident of what you're
        doing and what the [cr/h]acker can do to your other boxes and data

        i disallow laptops, i disallow dhcp, i disallow wireless, ...
        in addition to disallowing ftp/telnet/ppp/vpn/...

        - and others disallow cell phones ( with or without pic sending capabilities )

        - and at a minimum... have 3 different backup servers of your important data

c ya

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