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RE: Windows Messenger Pop-up spam
From: Harlan Carvey <keydet89 () yahoo com>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 04:03:11 -0800 (PST)

Harlan, as you well know, there are *many* other
things listening
to/on the subset of ports used by messenger spam,
off the messenger service in no way blinds/deafens
the *rest* of 
the RPC subsystem, where $DEITY knows how many vulns
have been (and remain to be) discovered.

True.  Agreed.  No question/problem/issue with that
Simply turning off the service in no way increases
the security 
of the machine, because those ports and the
multiplicity of 
services that use them will still be exposed, quite

Again, agreed.  However, as is many times the case,
this has nothing whatsoever to do with the original
poster's (OP) question.  

The OP asked:
"Is this sort of stuff still a problem? Does it still
exist in the wild?"

The OP did NOT ask:
"Does shutting off the Messenger service significantly
improve my security?"

Anyone sufficently addled as to run a machine
exposed in this 
way is also extremely unlikely to be patched up the
thus we have exposed *and* vulnerable services. 
Thus it will 
be game over when the first worm reaches the

Hhhmmm...depends on the worm, but yes.  But again,
this is not the issue at hand.  




Harlan Carvey, CISSP
"Windows Forensics and Incident Recovery"

"Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for
you are crunchy, and good with ketchup."

"The simplicity of this game amuses me. 
Bring me your finest meats and cheeses."

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