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Re: Roaming Firewall Solution Information
From: GuidoZ <uberguidoz () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:41:54 -0500

Randy, that's awesome that you've found a solution that will work for
you. However, don't be too confident in this statement:

While the Integrity product does require a master server that the
clients routinely connect to, it allows for seamless non-intrusive
security on the OS.  The Integrity client runs as a process that they
user (no matter their account privilege level) cannot adjust.  So there
is no chance that they will compromise themselves.

Take a peek at some freeware tools from DiamondCD here:
 - Advanced Process Termination (http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=apt)
 - Advanced Process Manipulation
(http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=apm)

Their program "ProcessGuard"
(http://www.diamondcs.com.au/processguard/) might be a good addition
to these systems. You can get 50 licenses for under $300. If nothing
else, try to kill the process with the freeware tools above. If you
are able to, then ProcessGuard may be worth a look. =)

P.S. I'm in no way affiliated with DiamondCS or ProcessGuard. Just had
expereince with their tools and recommend their software.

--
Peace. ~G


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:18:03 -0000, Keith Bucknall (Home)
<keith.bucknall () zen co uk> wrote:
Randy

Many thanks for the information, we are on a very tight budget and my boss
is very much Anti Cisco - it is a long story.  So anything else I can look
at would be great the only problem we have is 500 users..  So this option
may be a little expensive.

Thanks


keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Williams [mailto:randyw () techsource com]
Sent: 13 December 2004 17:59
To: Keith Bucknall (Home)
Cc: security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Roaming Firewall Solution Information

Greetings Keith,

We have a current project, awaiting funding, that would do almost
exactly what you are looking to do with the ZoneAlarm Integrity
client/sever product.

While the Integrity product does require a master server that the
clients routinely connect to, it allows for seamless non-intrusive
security on the OS.  The Integrity client runs as a process that they
user (no matter their account privilege level) cannot adjust.  So there
is no chance that they will compromise themselves.

The pricing we got for a 50 user rollout was about $3,700 with the
2-year maintenance package. They were charging about $65.00/seat for
both the client and the server.

This may be a bit outside your budget, but our review found that it was
the best solution for us.  Being a small company it will be a real win
for us.

RandyW

Keith Bucknall (Home) wrote:

Hi there

I am looking into the Cisco CSA agent software, take a look at
www.cisco.com
for more detials

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Many thanks.....

Mr Keith Bucknall

-----Original Message-----
From: G.Crow [mailto:secure.computing () gmail com]
Sent: 10 December 2004 01:16
To: security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: Roaming Firewall Solution Information

Greetings,


I'm seeking a firewall solution that I can deploy on my mobile users
laptops.  I've done some research into this, but in my position I've
been extremely pressed for time lately, and don't know if I can get
the research done in the near future, especially since quotes for the
products I'm familiar with are hard to come by for business users.
Any experiences, help, or recommendations into this are more than
welcome.


Basically I'm tired of worrying if my users are going to bring home
the next big thing.  I know what I'd pick for myself, but I'm not so
sure what is so good for end users - I'm looking for something I can
set up a base template of rules for and leave running without forcing
my users to make 'hard' choices in the field - and therefore call me.
I'm not currently looking at one of the centrally managed firewall
solutions, primarily for cost reasons - I'm doing this outside of the
central IT budget for a subset of users specific to my facility.  I
haven't seen any particular studies on this issue, and testing all the
various products out there isn't in my immediate time scope.


My criteria/situation is as follows:


-Environment:  Mixed Win2k SP4/WinXP SP1 laptops.  Varied hardware.
~20-30 or so.
-Budget:  $50 a head or so, lower preferable, but variance is allowed.
-Desired features:  Importable rulesets, local logging, user-friendly
(as they *will* end up making it ask about some traffic)
-Compatibility:  Cisco VPN Client, Novell, Internal web apps, i.e.
nothing too extreme except for possibly the Cisco client -Timeframe:
Trying to get this purchased before 2005

I've looked into ZoneAlarm and Checkpoint Integrity, but Zone Labs is
elusive in which product they will license to business customers, and
at what price, so I'm unsure even of what product to test.  Checkpoint
seems a little pricey for the simplified solution I'm going for -
however unlike ZoneAlarm and Tiny, I haven't played with it to be
sure.  My experience with Tiny has been anything but user-friendly, a
key concern.  I also haven't used recent versions, so I don't know if
it's improved.  Kerio I haven't used, and I'm unsure of other
client-based unmanaged firewalls to check out.


Thank you for any help you can provide,

Gabe
secure dot computing at gmail d0t com







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