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RE: deny access
From: Richard Windmann <windmann () area52 allserve net>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:21:52 -0600 (CST)


I am a former Cisco employee/engineer, and Paris is right. The only time
you would want to put the deny any any rule at the end yourself is if you
wanted to log the rule.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Paris E. Stone wrote:

I have been in the industry for 14 years, and I have never heard this.

 

If you have a CCO document to back that statement up, I would like to
see it, because I think you are wrong.

 

I have always heard / read / taught, that all ACLs end with an implicit
deny any any.

 

CCO Document URL:

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_configuration_e
xample09186a0080100548.shtml

 

Quote from the Introduction 2nd paragraph:

 

The IP ACL is a sequential collection of permit and deny conditions that
applies to an IP packet. The router tests packets against the conditions
in the ACL one at a time. The first match determines whether the Cisco
IOS(r) software accepts or rejects the packet. Because the Cisco IOS
software stops testing conditions after the first match, the order of
the conditions is critical. 

~the good part~

If no conditions match, the router rejects the packet, due to an
implicit deny all clause.

~end the good part~

~~~~~

Paris E. Stone, "Linux Zealot"

CISSP, CCNP, CNE, MCSE, CIW Master Administrator

~~~~~

"Not all who wander are lost."

J.R.R.T.

________________________________

From: Stanley Tomkiewicz [mailto:stanley.tomkiewicz () db com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:13 AM
To: Paris E. Stone
Cc: Agarwal, Ankur; Carlos Garcia; richardw () area52 allserve net;
security-basics () securityfocus com; GuidoZ
Subject: RE: deny access

 


Remember that the implicit deny is only if the acl is built with all
permit statements. Once you start putting in deny statements (at the
beginning of the acl) you change that dynamic. 

Stan 

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"Paris E. Stone" <pstone () alhurra com> 

11/30/2004 07:51 PM 

        
        To:        <richardw () area52 allserve net>, "GuidoZ"
<uberguidoz () gmail com> 
        cc:        "Carlos Garcia" <carlosg () cabonet net mx>, "Agarwal,
Ankur" <ankur.agarwal () colt-telecom com>,
<security-basics () securityfocus com> 
        Subject:        RE: deny access




~Begin Chastise~
He posted to the SECURITY-BASICS mailing list.  
That would pretty much "determine the correct level of help" in my mind.
~End Chastise~
~
~Begin pathetic attempt at help~

And, technically speaking,

"access-list 101 deny ip source ip destination ip" 

is the correct syntax, but the information he didn't get was:

There is an implicit "deny any any" in all Cisco ACLs, which means a 1
line ACL to block one host would effectively block all hosts.
&
ACL built, but it still needs bound

From interface config mode,

"ip access-group 101 in interface "

is the second part of the equation.
&
If there are no ACLs now, make it a two liner, the deny line, and:
access-list 101 permit ip any any

~End pathetic attempt at help~

My .02

-----Original Message-----
From: richardw [mailto:richardw () area52 allserve net] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:11 PM
To: GuidoZ
Cc: Carlos Garcia; Agarwal, Ankur; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: deny access

Everyone, I want to take this opportunity to apologize for Guido. 
Carlos, if you still need help, email me off the list, and we'll help 
get squared away.

Saludos,

Richard

GuidoZ wrote:
This is why I said it was better for him to find the answers on his
own, and not just tell him the ACL format. Otherwise it's very likely
that something will get messed up and he won't be able to fix it, or
ask questions online. ;)

Think about things before you act everyone. There is certainly nothing
wrong with helping out someone in need, although, you must determine
the correct level of help.

--
Peace. ~G


On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:40:40 -0700, Carlos Garcia
<carlosg () cabonet net mx> wrote:

ok i just write
access-list 101 deny ip host 216.212.33.185 any is this ok?
i put too
access-list 101 deny ip 216.212.33.185 255.255.255.255 any...
and can somebody tell me how to improve this, i run some servers and i
want
to protec them
mail, web,dns,proxy's where can i find a list so that it helps me how
to
configure the router to support QoS i need it for VoIP service???
thanks for
all the help

Atte.
Carlos A. Garcia G.
Cabonet Staff
Tel (624) 14 30120


----- Original Message -----
From: "Agarwal, Ankur" <Ankur.Agarwal () colt-telecom com>
To: "'Carlos Garcia'" <carlosg () cabonet net mx>;
<security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: deny access


HI
Simply create an deny access list to block this IP.

Access-list 101 deny ip source ip destination ip



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-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Garcia [mailto:carlosg () cabonet net mx]
Sent: 25 November 2004 04:58
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: deny access


newbie question how can i block this ip 216.212.33.185 i have a cisco
7200
this ip is trying to send mail with my server, i did not configure
the
router so i dont know how to do this any help?


Atte.
Carlos A. Garcia G.
Cabonet Staff
Tel (624) 14 30120



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