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Re: Network discovery
From: Byron Sonne <blsonne () rogers com>
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:59:20 -0500
I would like to ask all of you, if you have every used a network discovery
tool? I have a network with more than 5000 PC's and more than 70 sites in
the country. I would like to create an analysis about the network nodes,
line between them, speed of the lines etc. Would it be possible with a tool
to discover the whole internal network, with routers, gateways and all the
important datas?
No.
You could run a number of utilities/programs which will enumerate
alot/most of the devices on your network and provide quite a bit of
information.
It will help you compose a map, but nothing that you can plop on a
computer and run or plug into your network will give you a truly good
map unless your network is configured perfectly, uses common hardware,
has a fairly vanilla config, etc. Even then, I seriously doubt you'll
get a complete picture. I think bad information is worse than no
information at all as it can lead you to make false assumptions. Also,
consider the case that if *you* can get all the information, perhaps a
*cracker* (which is what most people mean when they abuse and misuse the
term 'hacker') could too.
But I digress... there are a number of gotchas you must be aware of.
Some of these gotchas are:
(1) devices that only listen; they don't transmit on the network. Not
just sniffers.
(2) Filtering or Translating proxies of whatever description.
(3) NAT (Network Address Translation)
(4) Firewalls
(5) Custom hardware/software/protocols
(6) Encryption
(7) Temporary power or network outages
(8) Design deficiencies in standard network protocols
Some things that can help out alot are:
(a) Good documentation
(b) Well labelled cabling and devices
(c) A sane overall architecture
(d) Good, knowledgeable people
(e) Good tools. Good starter link: http://www.insecure.org/tools.html
(f) Things like Cisco CDP, etc.
You and your skills are the most important thing of all, so read and
learn as much as possible.
Regards,
Byron Sonne
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