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RE: securing password list
From: "Fahr, Sam () HHSDC-SFIS" <Sam.Fahr () sid hhsdc ca gov>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:35:38 -0800

A really excellent point, Jeremy.  In a previous job I had to assist in data
recovery from a "fireproof" cabinet.  The cabinet may have been flame-proof,
but was definitely not fireproof.  In fact, (bear in mind this was in the
80's) the backup data was stored on 10 & 1/2" tape.  When we laid the leader
of the first tape out on a table it had a 6 degree arc.  The tape spindle
itself was severely distorted.  On some sections of tape the iron oxide
separated from the Mylar backing.  All in all, a terrific mess.  The fire
started in the building floor below the room where the cabinet was located.
BTW: we were able to recover 98% of the data and performed the work for no
charge to our customer.   


Thanks!
Samuel S. Fahr
Statewide Fingerprint Imaging System
916 229-3310 (office)
916 798-3089 (cellular)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy McBane [mailto:Jeremy () devcocomputers com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:15 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: securing password list


In reference to a fireproof box, what kind of media is not vulnerable to
melting within from the intense heat?
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Jeremy McBane
Devco Computers
Jeremy () devcocomputers com
337.993.3212
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-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Mills [mailto:JMills () cnbwaco com] 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:17 PM
To: Dan Denton; beevoo8 () hotmail com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: securing password list


I have a similar setup, I have an off network linux box behind two secured
doors and i make a weekly backup that is stored in an offsite fireproof box
along with all of my other backup tapes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Denton [mailto:ddenton () PAYLESSOFFICE com]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:02 PM
To: beevoo8 () hotmail com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: securing password list


I keep out password lists in an off-network linux box in a secured room, for
which only I know the password. Of course if anyone else gains access to the
room they could snag the whole CPU, but it's unlikely here. I also keep a
weekly backup on floppy in a locked firesafe.

-----Original Message-----
From: beevoo8 () hotmail com [mailto:beevoo8 () hotmail com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:52 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: securing password list




In my job I have a number of username/passwords to various websites and
machines that I must keep track of.  I was soliciting ideas on how to store
these passwords securely.  

Encrypting them with a passphrase seems counterproductive since the file may
not be accessed for a while and the passphrase might be forgotten. Would
biometrics be a safer idea? What security methods do you use to secure a
list such as this? 



Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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