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Re: University Degree or CISSP
From: Steven Kalcevich <lists () ciscokid net>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:25:07 -0500

Yes this is crazy. You cannot compare 4 years of full time daily education to a up to 6hr exam. I passed the cissp in under 3hrs. I studied for around 4 months. I am 25. I am also in 3rd year for a Bsc which is much much harder I can tell you.

Ken Kousky wrote:
This is the craziest conversation I ever heard of - there is NO comparison
between a REAL degree and CISSP. CISSP is great, valuable and vital but it
isn't in any way comparable.
Simply put, if you don't have a degree - get one and get the best one you
can.

-----Original Message-----
From: Huang, John, GCM [mailto:John.Huang () rbsgc com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:41 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Re: University Degree or CISSP

Degree or CISSP? It depends on where you are in life. A degree helps you
in the door and advancement into a management position usually require a
college degree. But if you're already in the field and don't have a
college degree, a CISSP cert is easier to obtain in a shorter amount of
time, and provide more immediate benefit since you can put the things
you learn into use.

-----Original Message-----
From: shyaam () gmail com [mailto:shyaam () gmail com] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:25 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Re: University Degree or CISSP

Yes,
Very true. Nothing counts equivalent to experience, but experience comes
only when someone starts somewhere. I have seen one big thing happening
around. People in the industries shifted from technology to business,
that is the point when they lost the security and created more loopholes
in their own products as they reduced the time needed, reduced budgets
and spent more on advertisements and marketing. How does that reflect on people. They need people already with
experience. But how is that possible. Everybody needs to start
somewhere. So experience does count, but I would say some foundation,
some added qualification and some experience is good for a cool job. For
a startup job, some degree and some cert is essential.

PS: This is my opinion, I am not pointing out any company or any private
organization.

-S-

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