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RE: Re: University Degree or CISSP
From: Bob Radvanovsky <rsradvan () unixworks net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:59:46 -0600

So...those who have BOTH a business AND a computer science backgrounds can understandably "fit" better into a security 
role than simply someone who has one or the other?  Perhaps.  I have known people who had either psychology, political 
science, history, and liberal studies degrees -- all of them have done very well with security.  Perhaps it is with the 
"human factor" that allowed them to transition into security so well...  ;))

-rad

P.S.  Then again, I've known my fair share of "security people" who couldn't conduct any security role or function 
without constantly reviewing their "Security For Dummies" manuals.  The sad thing was that they were certified in one 
or more security-based certifications (and that included the CISSP)!!!  >(((

----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Wright [mailto:cwright () bdosyd com au]
To: "Kain, Becki (B.)" [mailto:bkain1 () ford com], security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Re: University Degree or CISSP



The completion of a degree shows a certain process. It demonstrates a
certain level of research ability and knowledge. A degree does not do
everything for you, but it does help.

Most importantly it is important to have an understanding of more than
just IT. A "security" engineer with technical knowledge and no process
knowledge or business knowledge is oft worse than useless. Security is
not about tools and is a Risk based process. Many people with a
technical ONLY background do not understand this or the related business
controls.

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Kain, Becki (B.) [mailto:bkain1 () ford com]

Sent: 27 January 2006 8:22
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Re: University Degree or CISSP

The thing that I find frustrating, and I have a 4 year degree from
University of Michigan, in Economics, is that companies, like the one
I'm posting from, make it a requirement that you have a degree, but not
what the degree is in.  Seems that a person with 4 years of practical
computer work should be seen as just as (or more, IMHO), useful that a
person with a 4 year degree, but no practical skills.  But then again,
I'll never understand HR departments.

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