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Re: Securing workstations from IT guys
From: James Alcasid <james.alcasid () va gov>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:50:23 -0500

You may also want to consider an RMS solution or the HR department using
data encryption. 

I would think that their is also some policy in place for this sort of
thing? If your firm does not have an information security/assurance manager,
engineer or officer type then the time for such person has arrived.

Since it is the HR department that is being messed with it might be easier
to terminate the personnel involved given sufficient evidence.


James Alcasid | VTI
Department of Veterans Affairs
james.alcasid () va gov

From: Nick Vaernhoej <nick.vaernhoej () capitalcardservices com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:31:46 -0600
To: security-basics <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Conversation: Securing workstations from IT guys
Subject: RE: Securing workstations from IT guys
Resent-From: <security-basics-return-46591 () securityfocus com>
Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:45:21 -0700 (MST)


Give them a share on a file server and set up some file access auditing.
You find this in the same area as the NTFS permissions.
Access will be tracked in the event viewer.
With domain admins you can't do much to keep them out (unless money and
staffing is of no concern), but you can audit their access to files.

Here there are files being audited, Snare then forwards event entries to
Kiwi which in turn emails staff on certain criteria. For example, an
email alert goes out when a log entry contains X AND Y.
X being the file/folder name and Y being a user or group in active
directory. Simple but works.

Nick Vaernhoej
"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:24 PM
To: security-basics
Subject: Securing workstations from IT guys

It's a catch 22 situation and I need to make our Windows Xp workstations

appropriately secure. Secure from rogue Helpdesk personnel as well as
network admins.
The HR guys are complaining that their 'offer' letters to prospective
employees and some of the CVs that they recieve are finding their way
unwanted hands. I suspect both HR application vulnerability, for which I
undertaking some vulnerability analysis but I also need to protect the
that belong to Dept. of HR employees from rogue IT guys.

Here are the basics of what I intend to do:
1. Advise all HR users to shutdown their PC before they leave for the
2. Change all Local Admin passwords so that even IT helpdesk/other
know them.
3. Advise HR guys to assign passwords to their excel/word files.
3. Do not create shares off c drive giving 'everyone' access.

But...because they are all connected to Windows 2003 domain, I still
someone from domain admin group to be able to start C$/D$ share and
into their c: drive, what should I do?

Also, it's easy to crack open xls/doc passwords, what else can be done?

Alternatively, Is there an auditing on PC that can be enabled to
incoming connections to C$ and pop up and alert whenever someone tries
out from a remote machine.

Pls advise!!

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