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RE: Securing workstations from IT guys
From: "Vandenberg, Robert" <rv2954 () att com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:32:13 -0800


In normal circumstances, I wouldn't recommend this.  But given that you
have identified malicious behavior and have not identified the offender
using conventional means, then you have to escalate your investigative
methods.  Note that I recommended that you have permission of Upper
Management regarding this.  

Remember, there is a trust associated with giving your IT team
administration rights and permissions.  If they abuse it and you have
them acknowledging in writing the roles, responsibilities, and
limitations of their positions, they have to expect both being held to a
higher standard and to that being verified.

Besides, there is the consideration that it might not be them and if so,
the keystroke logger should validate this.


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Nick Vaernhoej
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:41 PM
To: security-basics
Subject: RE: Securing workstations from IT guys

A key logger? At what point are we crossing the line of common decency
towards co-workers?
I realize it is company property and all, but if you log access to
sensitive files and audit these logs do you really need to be more

This is not an attack, more a tagged on question to everyone?
Is keystroke logging commonly accepted by you?

Nick Vaernhoej
"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Vandenberg, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:18 AM
To: security-basics
Subject: RE: Securing workstations from IT guys

Those are good points.

I would recommend that you put in a keystroke logger program with the
written approval of your upper management on the PCs in question and
then download the logs each day.  That way you are able to create a
forensics "e-Trail" that can be used to confront/counsel/etc. them.  I
would also make sure that you look at your documenation and ensure that
each IT person has signed a document stating that they will not use
their abilities improperly.  Combine those two and you have a means of
pursuing them legally. 

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