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RE: Securing workstations from IT guys
From: "Vandenberg, Robert" <rv2954 () att com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:02:16 -0800

Nice if the world could be that easy.  But nowadays in our litigious
society, not going through a through investigation before taking the
appropriate actions is going to invite a wrongful termination lawsuit.
It is better to have all of your ducks in line and get all of the
evidence you can before you bring the offending party in and fire them.


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Eric Marden
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:02 PM
To: security-basics
Subject: Re: Securing workstations from IT guys

But a keylogger seems more than lazy, in my opinion.

If you can't trust the employees, then fire them.


Eric Marden
xentek: enlightened internet solutions
http://xentek.net/

On Nov 28, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Big Joe Jenkins wrote:

No. Company property is exactly that- even more so if your HR/ infosec

folks are bright enough to force all employees to sign an acceptible 
use policy/statement of non-privacy stating such at their hire.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Petter Bruland wrote:

I think installing key logger software is stepping over the line.
Although it's company assets, isn't there some sort of privacy law 
that makes this illegal?

-Petter

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Nick Vaernhoej
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:41 PM
To: security-basics
Subject: RE: Securing workstations from IT guys

A key logger? At what point are we crossing the line of common 
decency towards co-workers?
I realize it is company property and all, but if you log access to 
sensitive files and audit these logs do you really need to be more 
intrusive?

This is not an attack, more a tagged on question to everyone?
Is keystroke logging commonly accepted by you?

Nick Vaernhoej
"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Vandenberg, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:18 AM
To: security-basics
Subject: RE: Securing workstations from IT guys


Those are good points.

I would recommend that you put in a keystroke logger program with the

written approval of your upper management on the PCs in question and 
then download the logs each day.  That way you are able to create a 
forensics "e-Trail" that can be used to confront/counsel/etc.
them.  I
would also make sure that you look at your documenation and ensure 
that each IT person has signed a document stating that they will not 
use their abilities improperly.  Combine those two and you have a 
means of pursuing them legally.


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