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RE: FW: Securing workstations from IT guys
From: "Craig Wright" <Craig.Wright () bdo com au>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:54:00 +1100

Wiretap laws - there is an exclusion for network administrators. (TITLE 18, PART I, CHAPTER 119, ยง 2511)
Also laws for Federal Universities - you can not monitor any University system in this way.

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-----Original Message-----

From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Worrell, Brian
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 3:40 AM
To: Jan Heisterkamp; Nick Vaernhoej
Cc: security-basics
Subject: RE: FW: Securing workstations from IT guys


I have heard several places that key loggers are not legal, but can not
find any law saying that. There has been some things saying you can not
"Record" employees without them knowing.  Can you give me a reference
please?  I ask, as someone where I work now is curious if they can put
it into a policy, and I want to be able to give them the correct advice.


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Jan Heisterkamp
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:19 AM
To: Nick Vaernhoej
Cc: security-basics
Subject: Re: FW: Securing workstations from IT guys

Nick Vaernhoej schrieb:

A key logger? At what point are we crossing the line of common decency


Precisely the question has to be:" At what point are we crossing the
line of common demency [...]

1. The use of keylogger in a company environment without employees
consent or judicial decree is ilegal and will bring your company in
serious problems

2. For that, your forensic "e-Trail" is nothing worth due the fact that
the information you received from the keystroking-logs does not comply
with legal reqirements in order to be accepted as evidence in a trial.

3. The time you afford for a general monitoring of all users keystroke
logs is wasted time and costs your company money

4. There are enough other ways to secure workstations properly


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com 
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Vandenberg, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:18 AM
To: security-basics
Subject: RE: Securing workstations from IT guys

Those are good points.

I would recommend that you put in a keystroke logger program with the 
written approval of your upper management on the PCs in question and 
then download the logs each day.  That way you are able to create a 
forensics "e-Trail" that can be used to confront/counsel/etc. them.  I

would also make sure that you look at your documenation and ensure 
that each IT person has signed a document stating that they will not 
use their abilities improperly.  Combine those two and you have a 
means of pursuing them legally.

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