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Re: Crash Monitor
From: Warner Tabor <pneusolematic () mac com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:04:17 -0400
You might want to take a look at a piece of software called
EventSentry. I am currently using it to monitor several important
servers. It is reading Tomcat logs, system events, etc and sending
emails to me if certain events or log entries occur. It is also able
to monitor services for start, stop actions. It is very robust, but
the UI is a bit quirky. Still it is a great and powerful log / event
monitoring package. http://www.eventsentry.com/
-SKip
On Jul 5, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Unknown wrote:
Uff uff,
actually, is the box reinstalled (XP), patched and protected by
firewall
and AV. The new configuration is similar to previous p2p-"decorations"
just in a newer versions.
At now it seems everything in order. (Probably we have all data
secured !!! )
My first suggestion was also hardware. But such problem can't be
removed
with restart.
Some direct answers asking me about HW. In brief:
- capacitors around the CPU OK.
- CPU fan OK
- Memory ?? => to be checked
- HDD ?? => to be checked
but I do periodically defragmentation
after some crashes In was nessessary to run CHDSK
but no error were detected.
What of Audit-tool would you suggest? (I Have ols SUSE 9.0 Install DVD
with memory check-Software)
What about Auditor? (Linux [Knoppix?] bootable CD with some tools)
But now I try to ask more precisely:
It is possible monitoring all windows processes on some standalone
machine? It must be possible, but how? I'm searching for a tool like
FileMon, RegMon, which can get me some informations about actual
situation on my box (best way : service which write a logfile).
Thank you very much for all answers.
Have a nice day (Im goning BACKUP our DATA!)
Martin
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 14:58 +0530, Sumeet Narula wrote:
Actually I do agree with him, In our experience sometimes
especially where you can not definitely say where the problem lies,
its quicker and less heartburn to do so, I agree it may sound like
demolishing a house and rebuilding because of termite but this is
not on the same scale :-)
Sumeet Narula
A-25, | Preet Vihar | New Delhi - 110092 (India).
Tel.: +91-11-22545159 | Mobile: +91-9810166000
e-mail: sumeet.narula () gmail com
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-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com
] On Behalf Of Scott Race
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 01:26
To: Rivest, Philippe; infolookup () gmail com; GremaGehan () web de; listbounce () securityfocus com
; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Crash Monitor
Philippe, your proposed solution is like demolishing your house and
rebuilding because you think you "might" have termites.
I beg to differ than home PC data is less important than corporate
data. Home PC data is very important to that home user. If you
assume "expertise is lacking", then a format/reinstall could easily
result in data loss (family pictures, financial info, etc).
Bottom line is that if expertise is lacking, the user should find
someone who knows what they're doing and check out how severe it is.
And what if there is no rootkit? You can at least get an idea of
the risk factor by using the various tools of the trade (search and
destroy products, netstat for listening ports, software firewall to
check for incoming/outgoing connections, task mgr for running
processes, etc).
To me, format and reinstall would be a better solution for a
corporate PC, as generally data is stored on file servers and not
on the local machine, thus there is little risk of a format losing
sensitive data (of course this varies from network to network).
Home PCs generally have lots of data on them, and are generally not
backed up.
Case in point, my father-in-law just called Dell with a problem
(he's an older guy), Dell ended up having him format the drive. He
had burned his data to a CD a few days before, but guess what, the
CD didn't burn correctly (and he's a home user, he didn't test
it). DATA LOSS. Sucks for him, all his Quicken data and family
pics are gone.
Format should be a last resort. Yes, it works, but there are other
things to try first to get an idea of what solution is necessary.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com
] On Behalf Of Rivest, Philippe
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:22 PM
To: infolookup () gmail com; GremaGehan () web de; listbounce () securityfocus com
; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Crash Monitor
To add to the previous post.
If you are going to look for rootkits I would suggest formatting and
re-installing. If you suspect you have a root-kit on your PC theres
no need
to identify it or KNOW you have one. Just do a full format &
reinstall.
If you have a rootkit,theres no complete way to remove it. I mean
to know
100% that everything critical is removed. The time you are going to
spend
investigating this, cleaning it and worrying about the after
effects would be
better spent reinstalling.
For all those who are going to hit me with "you should know if
there's a
rootkit", this is a stand alone PC, not corporate and the expertise
and time
may be lacking. Also the lvl of sensitivity of the PC is probably
very low.
Format and move on
Merci / Thanks
Philippe Rivest, CEH
Vérificateur interne en sécurité de l'information
Courriel: Privest () transforce ca
Téléphone: (514) 331-4417
www.transforce.ca
-----Message d'origine-----
De : listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com
] De la
part de infolookup () gmail com
Envoyé : 2 juillet 2008 15:13
À : GremaGehan () web de; listbounce () securityfocus com;
security-basics () securityfocus com
Objet : Re: Crash Monitor
Virus protection up to date? Any P2P software like lime wire that
could bring
in tones of problems? Did you recently add any new software or
hardware? Also
go to Microsoft site and download a root kit program and scan your
pc.
------Original Message------
From: GremaGehan () web de
Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Sent: Jul 2, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Crash Monitor
Hello list,
my wife using Win 2000 + MS Office to writing her thesis. Of course
there are also such important tools like a Skype, ICQ ...... etc.
(you
know ... ) At now it is daily that this PC is crashing. I don't know
why. It is possible to detect the crashing application? Do you know
some
tool (something like DrWatson.)? The PC ist patched, Event Viewer
show
nothing.
The most probably case is: ca. 1 hour after login hanging this PC up.
Independently of runnig applications. After restart its work
normally.
Thank you in advance
Martin
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