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Re: Deny access to copy files
From: "Liam Jewell" <ljjewell () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:56:50 -0400

The harder you make it to take the source code, the more likely they
are to try and thwart it, even if it's just for the challenge, and not
bad intentions.  They'll  ALWAYS find a way, it's a computer after
all.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Yahsodhan Deshpande
<yahsodhan.deshpande () nevisnetworks com> wrote:
Hi Ahmed,
  How about creating a virtual machine (which is hardened enough), and
then allow the access to the code only via the virtual machine.

  Hardening the VM would be a task in itself, but it would solve much
of the issues related to USB and mass storage devices.

Regards,
Yashodhan


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Adam Pal
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:15 PM
To: Ahmed Khalid
Cc: focus-ms () securityfocus com; security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Deny access to copy files

Hello Ahmed,

Sounds more like you try washing your hands without getting wet :)
I can hardly imagine, that the programmers should be able to read but
not to copy, so if they need to programm they need access to the code.
I think its more frustrating for programmers to know that they have to
work with "handcuffs".
I think the problem lies much deeper :
do you trust your programmers?
If not, hire another, if yes, no such measurements needed, or better
say not more than written agreements about security policy.
About blocking web access:
As i can remember that one of the core problems of security is that
you cannot protect your data efficiently from attackers within the
company.
I can remember about agreements which contain things like:
-not connecting mobile storage devices to the workstation (this can be
monitored)
-not connecting mobile devices to the internal network (this can also
be monitored)
-not taking parts of code out of the company (which can also be
monitored)

Of course, bad-intentioned people will be able to bypass such
agreements but i preffer to assume that in your staff are good people
only.
One more - what about using interfaces for programming? Doing so,
every one holds only a small, unusable piece of the "puzzle".


--
Best regards,
 Adam Pal

Sunday, June 1, 2008, 8:20:25 PM, you wrote:

<==============Original message text===============
AK> I am working for a software house, they are developing a software
product
AK> and their requirement is to restrict programmers to take the code
out of
AK> office premises due to company policy. I am trying to configure a
windows
AK> based machine which denies access to copy files to external storage
devices
AK> connected to USB. There is an NTFS permission "Read + Execute" I
guess this
AK> could do the work but is there any other way to do it?

AK> They also don't need programmers to take the code with them in their
email.
AK> I can restrict SMTP and POP ports but when it comes to web based
emails I am
AK> clueless,  How can I restrict web based emails like hotmail, gmail,
yahoo
AK> there are so many of these and if I somehow manage to block all web
based
AK> email sites someone can write a script to send emails, if not a
script HTTP
AK> tunneling would bypass any checks and bounds defined by my
proxy/gateway
AK> machine. How can I block such thing?

AK> Any help would be highly appreciated.

AK> Regards,
AK> Ahmed Khalid

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