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Security Basics: Re: DSS

Re: DSS

From: Adriel Desautels <adriel_at_netragard.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:52:53 -0400

Right,
        But don't you think that the check-list should already be more
stringent? Businesses haven't stopped being compromised as a result of
compliant. In fact, if I am not mistaken the number of businesses being
compromised (compliant or not) is still rising.

        I guess that the real question is, what are people trying to protect
themselves against, real world malicious hackers, or the penalties for
not being compliant?

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        Chief Technology Officer
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Nick Duda wrote:
> Its better than not having it.
>
> how does your company know what your doing and protecting them from real world threats...etc.
>
> I think pci dss has a great foundation for implementing best practicies....a checklist if you will (which is pretty much what it is anyway). It also gets companies that don't deploy best practices (like an IDS) to start doing (whether they know what to do with it is another story)
>
>
>
> <Sent from Blackberry>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: listbounce_at_securityfocus.com <listbounce_at_securityfocus.com>
> To: Nick Vaernhoej <nick.vaernhoej_at_capitalcardservices.com>
> Cc: Hill, Pete <Pete.Hill_at_sit-up.tv>; security-basics_at_securityfocus.com <security-basics_at_securityfocus.com>
> Sent: Fri May 23 11:26:24 2008
> Subject: Re: DSS
>
> Just out of curiosity, how many people here thinks that PCI does
> anything to protect you from the real world threat?
>
> Regards,
> Adriel T. Desautels
> Chief Technology Officer
> Netragard, LLC.
> Office : 617-934-0269
> Mobile : 617-633-3821
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/118/a45
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>
> Nick Vaernhoej wrote:
>> Good morning,
>>
>> Have you scanned through the supplemental information regarding 6.6?
>> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/pdfs/infosupp_6_6_applicationfirewa
>> lls_codereviews.pdf
>>
>> You have two options, code review or web application firewall.
>> You state that you already have custom code reviewed so I would think
>> you are in good shape.
>> What makes you think you need to do both? (It is a good idea to do so of
>> course, but not necessary to satisfy PCI).
>>
>> Have a great day.
>>
>> Nick Vaernhoej
>> "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."
>>
>>> -->-----Original Message-----
>>> -->From: listbounce_at_securityfocus.com
>>> -->[mailto:listbounce_at_securityfocus.com] On Behalf Of Hill, Pete
>>> -->Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:53 AM
>>> -->To: security-basics_at_securityfocus.com
>>> -->Subject: PCI: DSS
>>> -->
>>> -->
>>> -->Hi all,
>>> -->
>>> -->Can anyone confirm for me what sort of workarounds there are
>>> -->concerning
>>> -->PCI:DSS and application layer firewalls?
>>> -->
>>> -->Requirement 6.6 of the standard states this:
>>> -->
>>> -->6.6 Ensure that all web-facing applications are protected against
>>> -->known
>>> -->attacks by applying either of
>>> -->the following methods:
>>> -->* Having all custom application code reviewed for common
>>> -->vulnerabilities
>>> -->by an organization
>>> -->that specializes in application security
>>> -->* Installing an application layer firewall in front of web-facing
>>> -->applications.
>>> -->Note: This method is considered a best practice until June 30, 2008,
>>> -->after which it becomes a
>>> -->requirement.
>>> -->
>>> -->We already have our custom code reviewed, but Im wondering if I
>>> -->absolutely must sort out an application layer firewall or if there
>> is
>>> -->a
>>> -->workaround that would be acceptable for a level 1 merchant.
>>> -->
>>> -->If there are any knowledgeable auditors (qsa etc) out there I'd
>>> -->really
>>> -->appreciate your help on this one.
>>> -->
>>> -->Many thanks
>>> -->Pete
>>> -->
>>> -->
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>>
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Received on May 23 2008

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