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RE: Web Traffic Security and Eavesdropping
From: "Nick Vaernhoej" <nick.vaernhoej () capitalcardservices com>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:54:03 -0600

Mike,

I think you got it backwards......
The answer is that it really IS possible.
But more information is needed to fully explain how.

Nick

-  -----Original Message-----
-  From: mojorising
-  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:06 PM
-  Subject: Re: Web Traffic Security and Eavesdropping
-
-  Guys, thanks for these awesome responses.
-
-  So, basically, it seems my friend and I were on the right track when
-  we couldn't think of a way some random person could sniff all (or
any)
-  traffic going to and from a web site (or any node on the Internet)
-  they don't have access to (or have access to a node somewhere along
-  the way, like a router or switch). The answer is that it's not really
-  possible. This statement primarily holds true under somewhat normal
-  circumstances, of course, aside from hacks like the BGP exploit
-  mentioned in the Wired article.
-
-  Mike
-
-
-
-  2008/11/12 Jorge L. Vazquez <jlvazquez825 () gmail com>:
-  > agree with that... has lots of information, but it doesn't say
-  anything
-  >
-  >
-  > Jorge L. Vazquez
-  > blog: www.pctechtips.org
-  >
-  >
-  > David Crandell wrote:
-  >> That article is wicked!
-  >>
-  >> Kinda one of those blindingly-obvious concepts....
-  >>
-  >> Dave Crandell
-  >> Vice President, Information Systems
-  >> On Hold Media Group
-  >> 972-758-1300
-  >> david () onholdwizard com
-  >>
-  >>
-  >> -----Original Message-----
-  >> From: listbounce () securityfocus com
-  [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
-  >> Behalf Of Shreyas Zare
-  >> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:31 AM
-  >> To: mojorising
-  >> Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
-  >> Subject: Re: Web Traffic Security and Eavesdropping
-  >>
-  >> Hi,
-  >>
-  >> I think this (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/revealed-
-  the-in.html)
-  >> will explain how.
-  >>
-  >> Regards,
-  >>
-  >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:46 AM, mojorising <moj0rising () aim com>
-  wrote:
-  >>
-  >>> Hi, there. We all know many web sites out there encrypt
-  connections with
-  >>>
-  >> SSL
-  >>
-  >>> to prevent eavesdropping on user sessions. In a conversation
about
-  this
-  >>> today while securing web services/ applications of one of our
-  sites, a
-  >>> friend asked how such a thing is possible if the eavesdropper is
-  not on
-  >>>
-  >> the
-  >>
-  >>> same network as the end-user or server being watched. I couldn't
-  provide a
-  >>> very good answer and was wondering if anyone out there could. We
-  know how
-  >>> easy it would be if you were on the same network or had access to
-  one of
-  >>>
-  >> the
-  >>
-  >>> nodes on either end or even, perhaps, a switch or router, etc in
-  between
-  >>> those two points.
-  >>>
-  >>> Basically, the question is, can someone out there in the big,
bad,
-  >>>
-  >> internet
-  >>
-  >>> somehow watch all traffic going to and from another node on the
-  internet
-  >>> (like a web server for example) without being on the same local
-  network as
-  >>> the node they are watching? I'm quite sure the answer to this is
-  yes and
-  >>>
-  >> if
-  >>
-  >>> yes, then how is it done?
-  >>>
-  >>>
-  >>> Thanks,
-  >>> Mike
-  >>>
-  >>
-  >>
-  >>
-  >> --
-  >> Shreyas Zare
-  >> Co-Founder, Technitium
-  >> eMail: shreyas () technitium com
-  >>
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-  >>
-  >> "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you
just
-  sit
-  >> there."
-  >> --Will Rogers
-  >>
-  >> "So run ..."
-  >> -- Shreyas Zare
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