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RE: computer with rootkit?
From: "Mikesch, David A" <dave_mikesch () baxter com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:38:08 -0500

I don't think you've stepped on egos, I think you just need to learn how to convey your thoughts without slamming 
people in the process. If you're that good, we and many others could learn a lot from you. However, making 
condescending or sarcastic statements on the way (which you did from the very beginning) does nothing for us or you, 
and in fact alienates your audience. 

I mean, look at the very first sentence you posted - "Clearly you don't have any experience with rootkits". Is that 
really a good or even accurate thing to posit? Why not instead simply point out the errors you see without making such 
an offending generalization (and that's really what it was - you don't know that individual at all OR their level of 
experience)? Then offer suggestions on what should be done instead. 

If you're really that good, I bet SANS, the NSA, or any of the other high end groups could use your expertise. Or write 
some books explaining detailing your techniques. I'd buy them if well written!

What you've demonstrated though, is that your social interaction/communication skills need to become on par with your 
technical expertise.

I'd love to tap your knowledge, but not if you're going to make me feel like an idiot in the process, especially if I 
dare question you because I need clarification or don't understand.
Have some compassion on your fellow white hats and you'll get more respect and fans.

Dave Mikesch
GCIH, GREM, GCFE


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Jamie Ivanov
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:18 PM
To: Ansgar Wiechers; listbounce () securityfocus com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: computer with rootkit?

Well shame on the people who keep ignoring what I've said. Apparently I've stepped on some egos.
Jamie Ivanov / KC9LFD
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ansgar Wiechers <bugtraq () planetcobalt net>
Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:08:50 
To: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Subject: Re: computer with rootkit?

On 2011-09-29 Jamie Ivanov wrote:
Repairing a rootkit infection is not that difficult. I've been reverse
engineering them for years. Those who have suggested a reinstall
should be ashamed.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512587.aspx

Shame on anyone who doesn't suggest to reinstall a compromised system.

Even if you managed to pinpoint exactly how the system was compromised
and what was altered after the compromisation (and I'm really curious
about how you'd do that without having a baseline of the system to
compare agains), it would usually take *far* more time and effort than
rebuilding the system.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
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"All vulnerabilities deserve a public fear period prior to patches
becoming available."
--Jason Coombs on Bugtraq

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