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Re: More Rconsole stuff
From: randy () INTER-CORPORATE COM (Randy Richardson)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:27:11 -0800
The problem here is that Inetcfg saves the Rconsole password to SYS:ETC
in a file named Netinfo.cfg. All users have full read access to this
directory so anyone with a valid account can view the Rconsole password.
Given Simple Nomad's post, even if you cut and paste in order to ensure
that the password is encrypted, it is still extremely vulnerable.
That's not correct. By default, users don't have access to SYS:ETC. If you
grant them access here, then you're asking for trouble because the only modules
that need access to this directory are the NLMs (NetWare Loadable Modules) that
run on the server.
SYS:ETC being world readable occurs once you install one or more IP
services on the system. My understanding is that the Web server, NFS,
etc. needs to have this directory world readable. If you are not running
any of the IP stuff, it is okay to take rights away from this directory.
That's incorrect (although you are correct in that it's okay to revoke the
rights from this directory). The applications that need access to SYS:ETC
don't grant "world" (or in NetWare speak "[Public]") access to this directory,
rather they usually create an Object (usually of type "User") somewhere in the
NDS tree (usually in the same context as the associated server object) which is
granted the required access to various directories including SYS:ETC. A good
installation utility informs the installer/administrator of these changes.
Station restrictions can be applied by administrators to these objects (and
probably should be if the application's installation procedure failed to do
this) so the object can only login from the node (MAC) address of the server
itself. This prevents a user/hacker from logging in as that object from a
workstation internally or externally (e.g., over the internet).
Simply deleting the services does not seem to remove the world readable
The presence of software is never tied to rights in this way. If you remove
the directory where the software was installed (and rights were granted), then
the removal of the directory would cause the rights to disappear.
Some software may come with removal utilities that remove the file and
directory rights its sister/brother (gotta be politically correct!) install
utility set up in the first place, but given the nature of shared directories
where end-users sometimes save files that don't belong there (e.g., a
WordPerfect document in the work directory for a small database) is the very
reason many of these removal utilities aren't created or only deal with the
directories the application was installed in (we rely on qualified network
administrators to take care of the rest).
For security reasons, the network administrator should be removing software
and not relying on an automated software tool when file/directory rights are or
may be involved. Of course, from the workstation point of view, very limited
security is available (just go to any high school and you can find a few kids
who know how to bypass the login prompt for Windows 95 and NT Workstation - I
suspect they learn from the internet), so automated removal utilities can be
On a lighter note, this directory also contains a copy of console.log,
the log file generated by console.nlm. Not a good file to be in plain
SYS:ETC is an important directory, almost as important as SYS:SYSTEM. If your
users do have full access to SYS:ETC, remember that you can apply IRFs
(Inhereted Rights Masks) at both the directory and the file level.
Of course, users normally don't even know that the SYS:ETC directory exists
because in NetWare you can only see something when you have access to it (and
the path to it), and by default users don't have access to SYS:ETC. If your
users do have full access to SYS:ETC, you may want to consider auditing your
network, or hiring a professional (and trustworthy) security auditor who is
familiar with NetWare and NDS to audit it for you.
Randy Richardson - randy () inter-corporate com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
"Printing nightmares? Enjoy sweet dreams with NDPS on NetWare."