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Bugtraq: Re: Submission

Re: Submission

From: Rune Kristian Viken <arcade_at_KVINESDAL.COM>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:36:46 +0100

Response to:
 Vedor Response and Reporting Vulnerabilities.
 Written by: HellNbak (hellNbak_at_hushmail.com)

> At risk of started the age old "Full Disclosure" debate again, I felt
> that I had to write this. It seems lately, that the so called security
> industry has lost its backbone. To quote a director of a popular
> security portal; "The whole thing is just sickening, I am waiting for
> someone to say something about it". Well, here is your someone.

Strange. I started out, reading this, positive and agreeing. The security
industry *has* lost its backbone. Its looking more and more like CERT for
every day that goes by - and it makes me sick.

> B.) There is nothing forcing Georgi or anyone for that matter to follow
> RFPolicy, but the policy is a good idea and is very sound, so why not
> follow it.

What if you disagree with parts of it? Personally I think RFP is far too
cooperative, and far too CERT-alike these days.

> I know a lot of you are probably thinking that this rant is pointed
> directly at Georgi and I guess it is as he is probably the largest
> offender. Georgi, take this message for what it is worth, you are no
> longer doing the security industry a service, you are letting people know
> that AOL/Netscape and their big pockets can take a once respected person
> and obviously very intelligent security professional and use them to do
> their bidding.

Facts:
1. He discovered a flaw.
2. He published a flaw openly.

Arguments:
Publishing flaws in security programs gets them fixed.
Fixing security flaws are positive.

As far as I can see, what he has done, is to get a security flaw fixed.
That is a service. Period. Claiming he is not doing us a favor is
ridiculous. Trying to force -one policy- upon all security folks are
ridiculous. If all flaws are to be handled in One Right Way, I for sure
know a lot of folks that won't care to get things fixed, if they discover
flaws.

--
"Rune Kristian Viken" <arcade_at_kvinesdal.com>
Received on Nov 30 2000
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