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Re: Heterogeneity as a form of obscurity, and its usefulness
From: Crispin Cowan <crispin () immunix com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:56:51 -0700

Bob Rogers wrote:

Heterogeneity increases survivability of the *species*, but does little to protect the individual . . .

I don't think that stands up, at least not for digital species.  I can
run Apache on Linux/x86, for which tons of shellcode is available, or I
can run the same version of Apache on Linux/sparc, for which much less
is available, and exists within a smaller and more specialized
community....

  . . . At most, you could say that running the most common system
  makes you somewhat more vulnerable to attack, and you should take
  that into consideration when planning your security.

These statements seem to agree. Is there a point?

Yes; and it would be interesting (though probably difficult) to quantify
that.

It is difficult to quantify just about any security benefit.

  So heterogeneity is really just security by obscurity, dressed up to
  sound pretty . . .

Seems to me that obscurity is the *only* defence against exploits for
unpublished/unpatched vulnerabilities that are spreading in the cracker
community; if you can avoid being a target, by whatever means, then you
are ahead of the game.

Now that is just not true. All of the technologies in the previous thread (StackGuard, PointGuard, ProPolice, PaX, W^X, etc.) have some capacity to resist attacks based on unpublished/unpatched vulnerabilities. That is their entire purpose.

Crispin

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Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.           http://immunix.com/~crispin/
Chief Scientist, Immunix       http://immunix.com
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