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RE: A new TCP/IP blind data injection technique?
From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:38:00 -0800

-----Original Message-----
From: Michal Zalewski [mailto:lcamtuf () ghettot org]

<snip>
  1. Path MTU discovery (DF set) prevents fragmentation [*]; some modern
     systems (Linux) default to this mode - although PMTU discovery is
     also known to cause problems in certain setups, so it is not always
     the best way to stop the attack.

     [*] Also note that certain types of routers or tunnels tend to
     ignore DF flag, possibly opening this vector again.
<snip> 
Note that this has nothing to do with old firewall bypassing techniques
and other tricks that used fragmentation to fool IDSes and so on -
mandatory defragmentation of incoming traffic on perimeter devices will
not solve the problem.

  I concluded some time back -- coming at it from an entirely different
angle from either of these -- that IP-layer fragmentation and reassembly 
was fatally flawed.  All sane implementations should set DF, and all but
the most secure of tunnels should honour it.

David Gillett



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