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Re: bsdbsdftpd-6.0-ssl-0.6.1-1 attack allows remote users identification
From: Mika Boström <bostik () lut fi>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:32:06 +0300

On Fri, 16 May 2003, Damian Gerow wrote:
Thus spake NetExpress (netexpress () tiscali it) [16/05/03 16:42]:
Product bsbsdftpd-6.0-ssl-0.6.1-1 http://bsdftpd-ssl.sc.ru/

During a pen-test we have notice how is easy to identify valid users on
vulnerable systems, through a simple timing attack.

When I try to connect to ftp without ssl using a unreal user with bad 
password I get
immediatly response of incorrect login, when I use real user with bad
password I get 2 second of wait before get message of incorrect login.

It seems to be very nice to the recent CAN-2003-0190 about OpenSSH/PAM
timing attack allows remote users identification

I have tested this on Linux RH 7.3 and RH 8.0

I just tried this out on a FreeBSD system (4.8-RC x2), and I get the same
response time.  Are you sure this is directly related to the ftp daemon, or
is it a PAM issue?

  Looking back two weeks in BugTraq archives, I see the following

  This suggests that many more programs are similarly vulnerable,
because they take shortcuts. After all, it is quite common and generally
even good practise to skip redundant code paths. The flipside of the
coin is that it may allow these kind of timing attacks.

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