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Re: Fwd: New possible scam method : forged websites using XUL (Firefox)
From: Barry Fitzgerald <bkfsec () sdf lonestar org>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 13:03:41 -0400

Below is my message to bugtraq regarding the Mozilla XUL forgery advisory. Please note that my post was rejected from bugtraq because the moderator claimed openly that the "the Mozilla developers show how amazingly out of touch they are" (his words) indicating that my message was not relevent while the previous one, according to them, was.

I'd like to continue discussion of this issue -- and will be forced to do so in the free venue of Full Disclosure since securityfocus' bugtraq has shown itself to now be utterly useless.


note: My point is that it's a security issue, but not a vulnerability of the code execution type, and thus not comparable to the timeframe it took to fix IE's latest flaws. It was also not "swept under the rug" as it's discussion was on a public resource. Appearently, bugtraq's moderators think it's OK to blindly attack Mozilla but not OK to try to clearify the issue. Nice move, showing your true colors like this.

Barry Fitzgerald wrote:

Justin Polazzo wrote:

5 Years to fix a vuln? I am not sure if even Microsoft has been that slow to confront a security flaw. Has anyone heard an explanation as to why this was kept confidential and swept under the rug until now?

BTW: Thank you Mr. Smith for an excellent page.

Sounds to me like sensationalist hyperbole more than it does that this was "kept confidential". (I hardly call bugzilla confidential.)

This is not a vulnerability. This is an interface option that can be used to carry out a forgery. The same can be done using the IMG tag. Since I can use another company's logo on my "forged" site using the IMG tag, are you then going to ask why it took the w3c over a decade to remove the IMG tag vulnerability?

Give me a break...


p.s. Don't get me wrong, this is a security issue that should be fixed. At the very least, it should be possible to disable XUL or limit it's usage. However, comparing this to the recent IE vulnerabilities is poor judgement to say the least.

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