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Re: MD5 To Be Considered Harmful Someday
From: Joel Maslak <jmaslak () antelope net>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:51:48 -0700 (MST)

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Gandalf The White wrote:

From my reading it appears that you need the original source to create the
doppelganger blocks.  It also appears that given a MD5 hash you could not
create a input that would give that MD5 back.  Passwords encoded with MD5
would not fall prey to your discovery.  Is this correct?

My understanding is similar to yours.

However, imagine a PKI system in, say, a contract management system.

Let's say you can write a valid word document with a section of text that
can be "swapped" out.

That can be a problem.  It breaks non-repudiation - someone could create
such a "swappable" contract and go to court and say "Yes, that's a valid
signature, but I really signed *THIS* document which just happens to have
an identical signature."  Of course if I was called upon to testify, I
would respond, "Yes, but it is clear this contract was written with the
intent to defraud us, as to get this property, it has to be constructed in
a very specific mind with this fraud in mind at time of contract


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