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Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes
From: Nicholas Knight <nknight () runawaynet com>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:16:09 -0700
Jeremy Epstein wrote:
As someone who's been involved in the electronic voting controversy, I'd
like to add a few points:
(1) I agree that source code should be inspected by someone truly
independent and competent, and that the standards for approving voting
machines should be stronger. However, that's NOT the same as open source.
And I'd strongly discourage folks from calling for open source, as it plays
directly into the hands of folks like Diebold, who claim that the people
(like me) who want Voter Verified Paper Audit Trails (VVPATs) are really
trying to kill free enterprise. [Yes, I know all the examples of businesses
You might not want to go there, but some of us do, and we're not going
to be cowardly about it. The election system has traditionally, and for
a very good reason, been completely transparent. No part of it was
inaccessible to the general public until Diebold came along. I'm not
willing to settle for a paper trail.
(2) WRT the web page showing a "Sun server when discussing Windows", I hope
people realize that web pages for companies are made up by marketing people
who don't understand the difference. Don't hold that against them... There
are plenty of real reasons to oppose Diebold.
A marketing department is something you keep in a locked cage like the
wild animal it is, and whatever it spits out you filter through sane
people before use. A company that fails to do this gets no sympathy from
me, only suspicion.
(3) WRT requiring that the technology protect itself in case the users
don't, that's simply unrealistic. In *any* real computer system, there are
expectations about the environment (e.g., the administrators aren't hostile
to the functioning of the system). It's important to state what those
expectations are, but there will ALWAYS be some that rely on non-technical
means. The important part about election systems is that they be explicitly
stated, and they be enforceable using non-technical means (e.g., by having
locks on doors). The problem today is that some of the assumptions (e.g.,
the vendor provided software doesn't have any bugs) are clearly unrealistic.
Unrealistic? It is a *voting system*! It does exactly *one* *very*
*simple* thing! If it cannot do it bug-free, its developers are
incompetent and should not be allowed anywhere near a compiler, much
less the key to democracy.
(4) WRT getting one set of software approved, and then installing another...
that's an old problem in any environment. The way it's supposed to work in
election systems is that a particular version is approved, and it's illegal
for the vendor to install something different. If there are teeth in the
law, and the vendor can be fined for installing illegal software, then it's
Fined? They should be charged with *treason*.
Bottom line, election systems are no different than any other systems in
that the security of the whole system is based on risk management. While we
should have higher expectations of election software than office automation
software, let's recognize what it is. IMHO, VVPATs are the only real way to
Paper trails are a safeguard to be used in the event the system doesn't
work, but they're *less accurate* than a *working* electronic voting
system would be. We have an unprecedented opportunity here to count
every vote with perfect precision through electronic voting systems.
Unless every aspect of those systems is open to public review, we're
throwing that opportunity away.