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Lesbian mafia bars in Spanish Harlem
From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:12:22 -0400

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So a year or so ago, Justine and I were sitting in our local bar in
Spanish Harlem (116th st and 1st, if you're a Manhattan native) and we
were chatting about the real estate situation in NYC. Let's face it,
real estate in NYC is overpriced. It's not just a bit overpriced, it's
fantastically overpriced in every way possible. Our current landlord
was pushing us out, and we needed to grow the business past a second
bedroom, so we were looking around for options. We'd tried to rent a
"live/work" place on 125th, (this is a place in Harlem - perpetually
up-and-coming, but you won't find KPMG there) for 4K a month, but that
fell through. It turns out there IS no legal live/work in Manhattan.
We weren't going to take the risk of getting thrown out of our own,
very expensive, home. So no go there.

We were bitching about this and a few other things about living in
Manhattan when one of the lesbian mafiosa's turned around and said
"Fine then, so give up!"

Of course we had no come-back for that. She was completely right. This
is the quintessential, to us, NYC attitude. "Can't take it here?
Leave."  We knew what we had signed up for. So we moved to Miami.

It is in this light that whenever someone says something is too hard,
in my head I think "So give up."

At this link: http://wiki.austinhackers.org/2006-08-30-0x0000  HDM
says that he thinks the Nokia 770 isn't fit for use as a portable
penetration testing product, but that he's going to try anyways. Is he
right that overcoming cpu and memory limitations is a difficult pill
to swallow on a tiny embedded device? Yes. Does the 770 have serious
limitations? Yes. But I have a Silica sitting here on my desk that
says if you throw enough resources at the problems, they go away. And
these problems are going to require lots more time and effort on the
Trolltech Greenphone and other interesting embedded devices.

In many ways, this is why Open Source doesn't scare me, aside from
Immunity being hippie enough to GPL almost everything we do anyways.

Immunity isn't a huge company, but we're big enough that we'll always
have someone doing something hard enough to make the open source world
give up. Heap overflows are difficult and only getting more so as time
goes on. Threading issues are unfun on any big enough system. Porting
to every language of Windows for every exploit is fun for about 5
minutes and then gets seriously old, even with an automated system
like Immunity Debugger. And, of course, we don't have to be perfect,
we just have to be worth 3K per 10 seats.

- -dave
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