Andrew,
Of course lack of degrees could, and often does, indicate someone is
better at starting projects than finishing them. There's a difference
though between taking a few extra steps to ensure someone without a
degree doesn't fit that stereotype during the interview process and
removing everyone who isn't degreed from the candidate pool from the start.
I'm definitely seeing more vulnerability researchers entering the job
market with degrees, but not as many going back to get degrees. I can
think of one good exception who's enrolled at UMass...
Josh
Andrew R. Reiter wrote:
>
> I would argue that those not holding advanced degrees, more often than
> not, tend to lack the ability to successfully see through a large
> project to it's completion... if not ability, then the experience.
>
> I would also begin to argue that more and more "vulnerability
> researchers" are actually getting advanced degrees and so this
> requirement is not so far-fetched.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Thomas Ptacek wrote:
>
>> Advanced degrees definitely don't correlate to the best-known
>> vulnerability researchers.
>>
>> On 6/6/08, Josh Daymont <joshd_at_securisea.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> What percentage of dd list subscribers have MS degrees? 10%?
>>> Less? Or am
>>> I completely wrong...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas Ptacek wrote:
>>> Since you posted on DailyDave, we get to critique you. Why, exactly,
>>> would you require an MS degree for this position?
>>>
>>> On 6/3/08, Daniel . <daniel.bilar_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi people
>>>
>>> Many of you on dd have the tech skills. The sine qua non requirement
>>> is the
>>> product shepherding: A "significant track record as an architect of
>>> commercial software product, preferably overseeing a number of
>>> successful
>>> product launches". I did not have that, siiiigh ... Pay is estimated
>>> between
>>> 110k-120k USD, need to be US citizen or Green Card Holder
>>>
>>> Say hi to Barbara from me when you apply ;)
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> Product architect
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Responsibilities include providing direction on existing product
>>> architecture and defining the next generation architecture and
>>> design for
>>> V.i. Labs' CodeArmor and other software protection products. The
>>> software
>>> architect will incorporate input from marketing, customer, and
>>> engineering
>>> to ensure the architecture and design both the short-term and longer
>>> term
>>> market needs. The software architect will work with the engineering
>>> team to
>>> build the products that deliver on this vision.
>>>
>>> Important aspects of the role include mentoring members of the
>>> engineering
>>> team, providing architectural oversight, and working with the Vice
>>> President
>>> of Engineering in setting the development direction for the company.
>>>
>>> Experience and Skills Required:
>>> MS or PhD in Computer Science or Computer Engineering
>>> Experience in role as architect at a commercial software company
>>> Outstanding communication skills (both written and verbal)
>>> 5+ years working in or with Software Security with working knowledge of
>>> encryption techniques, application signing, and/or other forms of
>>> software
>>> protection
>>> Reverse Engineering skills (demonstrable knowledge of RE tools,
>>> Microsoft
>>> Compilers, PE file architecture)
>>> Operational understanding of application runtime internals for multiple
>>> operating systems (Microsoft, Unix/Linux, and popular mobile operating
>>> systems)
>>> Team player, must be able to lead/mentor both senior and junior
>>> engineers
>>>
>>> Must be a US Citizen or Green Card Holder.
>>>
>>> Contact: Barbara Curran, Staffing Consultant – cell – 978-793-0404;
>>> main –
>>> 781-398-3408; bcurran_at_vilabs.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
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