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Re: Still relevant after all these years...
From: Rafal Los <rafal () ishackingyou com>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:28:28 +0000


First - Happy New Year all...

Now, perhaps I'm over-stating the obvious but... it seems like every year that passes the exploits get easier and 
easier to execute.  It's not that systems are necessarily easier to hack (or maybe they are?) but that the combination 
of the two things outlined below is making "hacking" sort of a low-effort activity... at least on the surface.  Now, 
before someone writes back, I fully realize that there still have to be in-depth researchers actually investigating, 
and writing the hard-core proggies to do these fun point-and-exploit activities... but let me put it out here...

Tools have evolved tremendously, and abstracted the heavy-lifting from the interface.  This means that there's a GUI 
front-end on just about anything now, and MSF and others like CANVAS are making it exponentially simpler to execute an 
attackExploits have migrated up the stack... meaning, whereas hackers had to write actual buffer overflow code which 
took time to find, develop an exploit, and then test... now we've got SQLi which takes about 30 seconds to 
find/test/exploit... and it works universally whereas a buffer overflow or heap exploit worked on a specific target.  
This leads to a mass-exploitation being significantly easier, and almost a given.
I can't wait to see what '09 and beyond brings... this community is dynamic and we're always finding new ways to 
exploit those willing to put features ahead of security.  My prediction for 2009... more exploitation not of "code" but 
of standards (like what happened with ClickJacking).

Again, Happy New Year, and a prosperous and healthy 2009 and beyond.


 Rafal (Ralph) M. Los
IT Security - Response | Mitigation | Strategy
E-mail:  rafal () ishackingyou com
 - Blog:    http://preachsecurity.blogspot.com
 - LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmlos




Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:24:59 -0500
From: dave () immunityinc com
To: dailydave () lists immunityinc com
Subject: [Dailydave] Still relevant after all these years...

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Seems like it was just last year we were announcing the availability
of D2's exploit pack, getting PINK ready for delivery, and wishing
there was a remote on XP SP2. This year, of course, we will still be
getting PINK ready for delivery, but we do have remotes on XP,
finally, thanks to MS08-001 and (more reliably) MS08-067. Hooray for
progress!

Largely I track how hacking changes through coursework. It used to be
that installing and using kernel rootkits would require quite a lot of
explanation. Now it's double-click away. PHP web application exploits
remain super-important as buffer overflows faded as a way to get onto
Linux machines. Originally we used to spend a lot of time on
shellcode, whereas now the shellcode libraries are big enough that
there's something for almost every situation, usually wrapped in
VisualSploit so I don't have to even go into how to use it from an API.

Like every year, the best vulnerabilities were 0day that got
discovered by someone not being careful enough, hackers are still
relevant, and offense is still in a winning position.

Happy New Year Everyone!
- -dave
(for those of you interested in actually USING VisualSploit to learn
to write overflows...)
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