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Re: Weev's collateral damage.
From: Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali () packetknife com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:33:20 -0500

The problem is that the ~context~ rarely follows the (now) precedent that
gets established. That's why issues of over-criminalization are even hard
to tackle.

Not to mention any of the previously mentioned difficulties of
(effectively) an adversary w/ unlimited resources that can "legally"
handicap you up-front and a jury that is predisposed to convict.

It's even more unfortunate that such a polarizing character is involved.

Anyhow... Happy Thanksgiving to my US friends. Be well, -Ali

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
kristian.hermansen () gmail com> wrote:

On Nov 21, 2012 9:08 AM, "Dave Aitel" <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:
It's obvious to anyone with any technical background that the case the
FBI brought against him is a travesty, and the fact that they won is even
more insane. It's this sort of thing that makes it obvious the DHS doesn't
understand the Internet, and shouldn't be given more control over

I agree generally, but the evidence is pretty clear:

"Auernheimer admitted conducting the breach to tarnish AT&T’s reputation"

This seems preconceived and an attempt to defame ATT. Those two facts
alone seem to constitute enough for legal action following the script
probes, but I am also not a lawyer. ATT doesn't seem to have a get out of
jail free card for security folk testing for weaknesses. All combined, you
go to jail when someone snitches on you.

I also had words with weev five years ago. He is definitely a troll to
anyone that knows him, so the story hits home. He has done much worse than
what this breach brought to light, as you point out.

I am also still troubled by the outcome of course because the "hack" is
really just twiddling some integers (direct object reference), which works
on 99% of websites today to "breach" private data. I would bet lots of
people on this lost have probably done the same and are not in jail. Then
again, we probably didn't chat about it for hours and attempt to defame a
corporation. We are mostly white hats here right? Maybe only a slight tint
of gray? ;)

Happy thanksgiving!

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