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El Jefe secondary thoughts
From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:38:40 -0400

Nico disagrees with me and thinks the best feature in the new El Jefe is
the ability to create a farm of VM's which you can then apply against
malware for analysis. So for example, you might have a "developer" VM
and an "executive" VM, and they might be different operating systems,
configurations, and all sorts of other setups. Perhaps one of them has a
more modern AV or HIPS on it even. Then you can quickly and easily
select a piece of suspected malware to run on one of them that you think
is most appropriate and then just as easily get your report.

Honestly, I think as an attacker sometimes the best malware is NO
MALWARE AT ALL. A lot of what I'm looking for in El Jefe is people
running psexec, or cmd.exe at weird times. There's a concept missing
from OpenIOC that is more related to the process of intrusion as opposed
to "which malware was run". It's something quite hard to model and test
- we use CANVAS and INNUENDO and a few other tools for this obviously to
generate database sections that correspond to actual attacks
(client-sides, for example). A lot of this is purely "in memory" and has
a very short time-span, but is still detectable, even automatically,
with tools like El Jefe.


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