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Re: TOR and the Digital Freedom Conversation
From: "Jones, Mark B" <Mark.B.Jones () UTH TMC EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:27:55 -0600

One thing I think it illustrates is that the notion of privacy varies widely
from one person to the next.  Clearly some people do not consider the NSA
surveillance activities to be an infringement on their privacy while others
consider it the basest treachery.
  
It is my opinion that this observation falls in line with the need to
balance Identity, Trust, Privacy, and Accountability.  If your perception is
that the NSA cannot be trusted and that the agency is not appropriately
accountable you will see the surveillance very negatively with respect to
privacy.  But if you are disposed to trust that the NSA is acting in your
best interests and that Congress and the Courts have adequate control over
NSA activities, then you will be less concerned.


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Manjak, Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:55 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] TOR and the Digital Freedom Conversation

Good article.

One thing that always strikes me about the people who believe they have
nothing to fear from such all-encompassing surveillance as practiced by
the
likes of the NSA is that, ultimately, they fail to realize they won't be
the ones
who get to decide whether or not they have anything to hide.

One of the grand objectives of the NSA's surveillance, storage, and
analysis
capabilities is the ability to build networks of associations. So, even if
you
don't have "anything to hide," can you vouch for all your associates, and
their
associates, and so on?

I'm afraid that one of the more insistent lessons of history is that when
heads
start to roll,  those purges acquire a madness and momentum that cuts a
very
wide swath before they exhaust themselves.


Marty Manjak
ISO
University at Albany


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of David Escalante
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:04 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] TOR and the Digital Freedom Conversation

Interesting piece just came out on this sort of thing on another list I'm
on....

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.securitycurrent.co
m/en/writers/mark-rasch/dont-spy-on-me-id-rather-be-
safe&k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0A&r=o50KCUcRVN10tgtglyN
VFw2kmizyPIIFTSGui%2BBSZ5A%3D%0A&m=Sw2zPOtzRs8VDdA0lRKypZlCaV
B93FwshuDTx7sn5u0%3D%0A&s=14398dc9d17a01d87baa91478a4007ab87a00
3dc8d7a42acd6c1ca292f6fc7e6

--
David Escalante

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