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Re: Risk analysis And Vendor Management
From: Chuck Kesler <chuck.kesler () DUKE EDU>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:42:13 +0000

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?Likewise, at Duke Medicine we go through a due diligence process to unders=
tand the IT-related risks of doing business with a Business Associate or ot=
her vendor, which then dictates what security controls we document as part =
of a data security agreement exhibit in our contracts. In cases where sensi=
tive data is going to be stored, processed, or transmitted in a material fa=
shion by the vendor, one of those controls is that the vendor is required t=
o have a third party security audit against an accepted industry standard (=
e.g. SSAE-16 SOC 2, ISO 27001/27002, NIST 800-53, HITRUST CSF) conducted on=
 an annual basis. We also reserve the right to have the vendor share the re=
sults of the audit with us, at minimum in the form of an engagement letter =
from the auditor that summarizes their methodology and findings.?


Chuck



________________________________________
Chuck Kesler, MBA, CISSP, CISM, PMP
Chief Information Security Officer
Duke Medicine
Email: chuck.kesler () dm duke edu
Office: 919-668-0518
________________________________
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV E=
DUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Sol Bermann <solb () UMICH EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:40 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Risk analysis And Vendor Management

We require 3rd-party assessments for service providers when sensitive data =
is involved

Sol Bermann
Interim University of Michigan Chief Information Security Officer
Privacy Officer and IT Policy, Compliance and Enterprise Continuity Strateg=
ist
ITS - Information & Infrastructure Assurance
University of Michigan

734/615-9661
solb () umich edu<mailto:solb () umich edu>




On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:33 PM, David Grisham <Dgrisham () salud unm edu<mail=
to:Dgrisham () salud unm edu>> wrote:
We require our business Associates and other vendors to supply information =
on systems, applications, databases, medical devices, etc. That way we can =
do a risk analysis and document controls that are in place by the vendor as=
 well as what we need to do to mitigate where controls are ineffective or a=
bsent.
But we're getting some internal feedback that this is not a standard practi=
ce.
--One of the big issues is HIPAA/HITECH requiring assurances of security co=
ntrols. I have found Stanford to have an excellent policy on vendor managem=
ent.
-- Is there anybody else out there who requires third-party assessments whe=
n confidential/ePHI/PII data is involved? Especially if it's outsourced?
To see Stanford's policy "http://web.stanford.edu/group/security/securecomp=
uting/ASP_security.html"
Cheers --grish
David D. Grisham
David Grisham, Ph.D.,  CISM, CRISC
Manager, IT Security,
UNM Hospitals, IT Division
Suite 3131, 933 Bradbury Drive, SE  Albuquerque, New Mexico 87106
Ph: (505) 272-5657<tel:%28505%29%20272-5657>
Department FAX 272-7143, Desk Fax 272-9927
Work email:  dgrisham () salud unm edu<mailto:dgrisham () salud unm edu>


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<p>&#8203;Likewise,&nbsp;at&nbsp;Duke Medicine&nbsp;we&nbsp;go through a du=
e diligence process&nbsp;to understand the IT-related risks of doing busine=
ss with a Business Associate or other&nbsp;vendor, which then dictates what=
 security controls we document as part of a data security agreement
 exhibit in our contracts. In cases where sensitive data is going to be sto=
red, processed, or transmitted in a material fashion by the vendor, one of =
those controls is that the vendor is required to have&nbsp;a third party se=
curity audit&nbsp;against an accepted industry
 standard (e.g. SSAE-16 SOC 2, ISO 27001/27002, NIST 800-53,&nbsp;HITRUST C=
SF) conducted on an annual basis. We also reserve the right to have the ven=
dor share the results of the audit with us, at minimum in the form of an en=
gagement letter from the auditor that
 summarizes their methodology and findings.&#8203;<br>
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<p>Chuck<br>
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<div><font color=3D"#999999">Chief Information Security Officer</font></div=

<div><font color=3D"#999999">Duke Medicine</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#999999">Email: chuck.kesler () dm duke edu</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#999999">Office: 919-668-0518</font></div>
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f of Sol Bermann &lt;solb () UMICH EDU&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 18, 2014 1:40 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SECURITY] Risk analysis And Vendor Management</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">We require 3rd-party assessments for service providers whe=
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<div>Sol Bermann</div>
<div>Interim University of Michigan Chief Information Security Officer</div=

<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial; font-size:small">Privacy Officer and=
 IT Policy, Compliance and Enterprise Continuity Strategist</span><br>
</div>
<div>ITS - Information &amp; Infrastructure Assurance </div>
<div>University of Michigan </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>734/615-9661</div>
<div><a href=3D"mailto:solb () umich edu" target=3D"_blank">solb () umich edu</a>=
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We require our business Associates and other vendors to supply information =
on systems, applications, databases, medical devices, etc. That way we can =
do a risk analysis and document controls that are in place by the vendor as=
 well as what we need to do to mitigate
 where controls are ineffective or absent.<br>
But we're getting some internal feedback that this is not a standard practi=
ce.<br>
--One of the big issues is HIPAA/HITECH requiring assurances of security co=
ntrols. I have found Stanford to have an excellent policy on vendor managem=
ent.<br>
-- Is there anybody else out there who requires third-party assessments whe=
n confidential/ePHI/PII data is involved? Especially if it's outsourced?<br=

To see Stanford's policy &quot;<a href=3D"http://web.stanford.edu/group/sec=
urity/securecomputing/ASP_security.html" target=3D"_blank">http://web.stanf=
ord.edu/group/security/securecomputing/ASP_security.html</a>&quot;<br>
Cheers --grish<br>
David D. Grisham<br>
David Grisham, Ph.D., &nbsp;CISM, CRISC<br>
Manager, IT Security,<br>
UNM Hospitals, IT Division<br>
Suite 3131, 933 Bradbury Drive, SE &nbsp;Albuquerque, New Mexico 87106<br>
Ph: <a href=3D"tel:%28505%29%20272-5657" value=3D"&#43;15052725657">(505) 2=
72-5657</a><br>
Department FAX 272-7143, Desk Fax 272-9927<br>
Work email: &nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:dgrisham () salud unm edu">dgrisham () salud =
unm.edu</a><br>
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