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Firewall Wizards: Re: how to determine whether a firewall is stateful or just a simple packet filter?

Re: how to determine whether a firewall is stateful or just a simple packet filter?

From: Eric Vyncke <evyncke_at_cisco.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:04:55 +0100

Even easier, run nmap -p0 -sA ... from the public towards on server on the
private side (like an internal web server). Nmap will send a TCP ACK
without an established connection. If you received a RST packet, you are
not stateful.

Else, you are at least keeping one state.

But, being stateful at layer 4 is more complex than that: do you check
sequence number ? what about IP fragmentation ?

and what about L7 states ?

There is no easy answer

-eric

At 09:10 12/03/2002 -0500, Jose Nazario wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, ·ç·ç wrote:
>
> > how to determine whether a firewall is stateful or just a simple
> > packet filter? because of job ,I am eager to make clear of it. I will
> > be very appreciate if someone can tell me.
>
>quite simple, really: you can send 'response' packets to stimuli that
>never were sent (ie a SYN-ACK) and watch for a response from the target
>(ie a RST).
>
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