Re: Re: Spyware mumbo jumbo and bigger woes

I parsed Dave's comment the other way, that spyware is vaguely
illegitimate and unpleasant, while phishing is outright illegal.

Crispin

Adam Shostack wrote:

>Dave,
>
> I suspect I misunderstand you.
>
> Are you saying that the practice of phishing is in a grey
>area? I mean, I'm on the side of Abagnale and the redemptionists (to
>reprise a debate), but I have no doubt that phishing is nasty
>misrepresentation and fraud, and not justifiable by any logic. And I
>say that even as I can appriciate the artistry of a well executed
>phish, in the same way I can appriciate a Jet Li movie. I wouldn't
>want to hit it in real life.
>
>Adam
>
>On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:45:24AM -0500, Dave Piscitello wrote:
>| I think the "reason" no one's doing too much evil of the sort you
>| describe with spyware is that the motivation of spyware companies is
>| "for profit". Many of the spyware developers are full time
>| programmers with 401K and medical bennies working for profit-seeking
>| companies that have deplorable business ethics. Phishing crosses the
>| vague line between what is illegal and what is unpleasant/intrusive.
>|
>| On 2 Dec 2004 at 14:43, J. Oquendo wrote:
>|
>|
>| > how long until someone wisens(evils) up and creates a
>| > replica in conjuction with hosts files and scams a couple of thousand
>| > people into sending priceless information to some shmuck with too much
>| > time on his/her hands.
>|
>|
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