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Firewall Wizards: Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?

Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?

From: R. DuFresne <dufresne_at_sysinfo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:03:51 -0500 (EST)

        [SNIP}

>
> If we look at this as an endluser problem then our solution is going
> to involve (at least in part) things like luser education and training.
> Individually, this is not necessarily a large task[0], but:
>
> -Educating one luser doesn't help educate other lusers[1]
> (This includes the proposition that me educating my lusers
> doesn't help you educate your lusers)
> -Educating -all- lusers is a large task
> -Single lusers crapping out on their training can be as expensive
> as multiple lusers crapping out[2]
>
> The point being that solutions to endluser problems (approached from
> the endluser end) don't scale. The reason why this is particularly
> problematic is that bad guy activities tend to scale extremely well.
>

Other reasons that this can scale poorly is/are;

        -endusers that have the perspective <at least while at work> that
                "security is someone elses problem/job"

        -education is a process that has to be done again and again,
                especially in larger orgs. Even those endusers trained
                more then once will tend to do things at work they know
                better then to do at home on their own systems. And there
                are always new employees/endusers coming in the door.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

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