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Re: Application-level Attacks
From: George Capehart <capegeo () opengroup org>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:30:02 -0500

Stephen P. Berry wrote:

<snip>


If you want a one-liner to take away from all this, I suppose my
observation in a nutshell is that we talk too much about mechanisms
and too little about consequences.  This makes sense in that the latter
is very much a context-dependent thing (and therefore isnt' terribly
suitable for whitepapers and marketing blurbs), but that's where
most of the actual interesting stuff is.

Aaaaahhhhhh. The structure vs. function dichotomy rears its head again . . . This should make for many late nights . . . :>

Cheers,

/g
--
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."  -- RFC1925




- -spb

- -----
0       What exactly, if anything, it is -not- a lousy model of is
        another question altogther.
1       If a particular bug is a buffer overflow, for example, we
        can certainly make some general statements about buffer
        overflows---but being a buffer overflow isn't necessarily
        interesting information from the risk analysis standpoint[2].
2       Mod the case where part of your defence-in-depth strategy
        involves nonexecutable stacks, StackGuard or an isomorphism
        thereof, Multics, or whatever.

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