Firewall Wizards: Re: A fun smackdown...

[Adam Shostack <adam () homeport org>]

On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 03:55:29PM -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
| Chuck Swiger wrote:
| >You've asserted that all standards are useless.  You've asserted that standards which do not take security into 
account are not internet-worthy.  You seem to believe that no Internet standard is legitimate and all traffic must be 
considered dangerous.
| 
| OK. Why don't you list for us, real quickly, the internet application
| protocols that haven't had a security vulnerability so far.
| 
| I'm all ears. Start your engines. Go!
| 
| mjr.
| (PS - chargen?) 

Chargen, like echo, can be turned into a DOS with the aid of a little
ip forgery.


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