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Re: "firewalls are obsolete" rant
From: "Paul D. Robertson" <paul () compuwar net>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:02:06 -0500 (EST)

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Brian Loe wrote:

IRC isn't all that efficient at sharing ideas anyway - can't see how
anyone could make a business case for it.

"People I need to talk to to support $application all hang out out #foo."
"People I need to monitor all hang out on #bar."
"Folks I need immediate communications with are all on #baz."
"I need to complain about all the PIX posts being approved on #fwwiz"[1]

I wouldn't allow it off-network from a standard desktop, but I've had 
folks who have perfectly valid business reasons ask for it.  It turns out 
that it's not a bad communications mechanism.

Personally, I SSH to a server that I can IRC from, assuming the security 
policy allows SSH out.  The last place I worked, SSH out was one of my "I 
need to be able to do this is you hire me" conditions of employment.

[1] You wish!
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