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Re: Integrated IDS/IPS/Firewall (Cisco ASA and Juniper ISG)
From: Balazs Scheidler <bazsi () balabit hu>
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 21:35:05 +0200

On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 17:11 +0400, ArkanoiD wrote:

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:24:17PM -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:

My guess is that that VCs would split a rib laughing if someone came
to them with a business plan for a new firewall company. :) 

Damn sure. And maybe that's why we have nothing like "Gauntlet on steroids"
(flexible, expandable and supported with development team who is willing
to help to integrate it with any customer application) these days, though 
there definitely *is* some niche market demand for it.

We are lucky XML firewalls became reality, thanks to people who made those.

There is *NO* firewall with reasonable IMAP proxy implementation! No one at

And when i try to tell someone i am firewall developer, they usually think
it is another stupid linux-based packet filter hacked together with bunch 
of freeware tools hiding its incredible uglyness behind the web interface. 
Even before i tell a word. Just because everyone does that and main competition
is to make it cheaper.

Yes, this is a bit frustrating. One has to call a firewall something
different because otherwise he won't be taken seriously, and the product
is immediately dismissed.

And yes, there is at least one firewall which has an IMAP proxy
implementation (+ 18 other protocols + SSH + SSL), but I don't want to
name it as I am biased :) 


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