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Re: Integrated IDS/IPS/Firewall (Cisco ASA and Juniper ISG)
From: Carson Gaspar <carson () taltos org>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 08:35:45 -0700

--On Friday, May 26, 2006 9:24 AM -0400 "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com> 

Frank Pawlak wrote:
I agree that the security industry is all but dead, but what are the
big financial firms, or perhaps the gov using for security
The big commercial firms are an interesting question, though. There's
the ones that are innovating in non-computing fields, and they mostly use
computing in a supporting role. In that environment, there's no need for
innovative use of information technology. But the places where there is
innovation going on - is largely custom code or extremely clever
customizations of existing code. WALMART, Amazon, Ebay, Google,
need I say more? The big financial firms - Wall Street and banking,
supposedly write more code in-house than any other industry in the US,
right now.

From personal experience, I can say that at least 2 of the top 5 Wall St 
firms use *shudder* Firewall-1. In at least one case, they use it very 
badly (or did several years ago). Financials are just like any other kind 
of large company - they run the gamut from security disasters to extremely 
well run. They are heavily regulated, but most of the regulations involve 
process, not technology. So as long as they have an audit trail, they can 
use old TAMU drawbridge and be compliant.

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