IDS: RE: IPS Reliability/Availability

["Alan Shimel" <ashimel () stillsecure com>]

We are looking at a similar type of card for our IPS, am interested if
customers really by into this as being true bypass?  We wanted to offer it
as an option with free IPS strata guard free (stillsecure.org).

alan

 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Roesch [mailto:roesch () sourcefire com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM
To: Andrew Plato
Cc: geek_brigades () yahoo com; focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: IPS Reliability/Availability

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So Andrew, are you saying that most of our customers routinely  
experience 75% hardware failure rates and we're somehow managing to  
cover this up or do you think this was an isolated incident?  Can you  
imagine the cost to us in in terms of overhead for our customers with  
100+ sensors if that were a true indication of the reliability of our  
gear?

BTW, our IPS appliances offer zero power fail-open NICs as well.

     -Marty

On Feb 6, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Plato wrote:

> Most of these devices are pretty good for reliability. The only
> exception I would make is SourceFire, which back when we sold it had
> abysmal reliability (3 out of 4 boxes we sold to a customer show up  
> dead
> or died soon after installation).
>
> TippingPoint sells a zero-power bypass add-on for their IPS. If the  
> IPS
> fails in anyway, traffic is passed through the zero-power device. Its
> very easy to add. Juniper does something similar.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Andrew Plato, CISSP, CISM
> President/Principal Consultant
> Anitian Enterprise Security
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geek_brigades () yahoo com [mailto:geek_brigades () yahoo com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:27 AM
> To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
> Subject: IPS Reliability/Availability
>
> I am working on a big IPS project and I am very concerned about
> installing an inline device in a core enterprise network, where these
> devices have the potential to create big time network outages.
>
> Can you, please, share your possible bad experiences about the
> reliability of the following inline IPS products:
>
> ISS
> TippingPoint
> Juniper IPS
> Sourcefire
> McAfee IntruShield
>
> Have you had any issues with the availability of these devices,  
> such as
> fail close crashes or do you have any experience with bypass switches
> that would mitigate the availability issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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