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From: full-disclosure () lists netsys com (KF)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:14:41 -0700

Thats exactly why I love the reply-to on this list. =]
-KF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles 'core' Stevenson" <core () bokeoa com>
To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] On sf sell out


Er... please disregard that last e-mail it was sent to the list on
accident. If you're interested in joining our small list and develop
exploits feel free to contact core-owner () noops english org since I spilt
the beans.

best regards,
core

Charles 'core' Stevenson wrote:
Georgi,

Hi I've always admired your work :) Especially the AIX shellcode..
anyways I just thought I would write you to inform you of a small time
for exploit developers only mailing list. So far we have about 10 well
reputed exploit developers on our list. And that's it! No security
consultants, pen-testers, script kiddies... the URL is here. excuse the
pop-up; I've found friendly hosting for the list but not the page yet :)

http://www.crosswinds.net/~zerodaydigest/

Please take a look at the charter. Anyways, we'd all love to benefit
from your wide range of exploit development expertise!

best regards,
core

Georgi Guninski wrote:

Here are my 2 stotinki on Securityfocus's sell out.

I don't mind aleph1 & co. taking $75M. What I am concerned what price
we
shall pay for it. ($75M is too much for collecting other people's
0days,
IMHO)

What scares me about Securityfocus is that since the beginning 2002
they started not posting some of my posts to bugtraq but seem to post
"politically correct" messages.

They went so far to not post a real vulnerability  [1](later
indirectly confirmed by Microsoft in a bulletin, not fixed yet).
Then I decided - no 0days for securityfocus and started posting only
comments and opinions, mainly on the topic of full disclosure.
Most of them didn't get to the list, though the opposite of my
opinions were
posted.

Hope they don't turn into mainstream media outlet and use the power of
moderation for labelling people and ideas as good and bad in their user
base.

Note: I don't mean to whine for them moderating me down, it is their
right
to do whatever they want with their mailing lists, but think this
should be
publicly known.

[1] http://www.guninski.com/signedactivex.html (also check ver. 2.0)

Georgi Guninski
http://www.guninski.com


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