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Re:Flares and personal opinions
From: full-disclosure () lists netsys com (Berend-Jan Wever)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 01:08:21 +0200

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This is not a disclosure, just another attempt to stop these nonsense =
flares on this new list. Please delete if you are not interested with my =
apologies for bothering you.

1) I feel that if you have a problem with stuff like '[Full-disclosure]' =
being added to the email's topic, that this is your personal problem: =
deal with it yourself and stop whining to people who really don't care. =
By subscribing to this list, I assume you have basic knowledge of =
computer programming: write a small program or script that filters your =
email and removes this from the subject line. I personally am all in =
favor of these additions to the subject line.

2) Could everybody who doesn't have any information or disclosure to =
post, please not post at all ? Just to take a random  example, I quote =
martin f krafft:

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also sprach Nomen Nescio <nobody () dizum com> [2002.07.12.0350 +0200]:
Bugtraq moderator will not post your message if you are GOBBLES or not =
liked.

because GOBBLES is ridiculous!

death to anti.security.ls
death to project mayhem
Security Focus wants to be to security what Microsoft is to desktop
Does not ISS own this title

you apparently have no clue. just shut up, please.

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True: If you have no clue, please shut up, that goes for anybody that =
doesn't have any usefull information to post which includes you martin.
(And because I feel I have to post this message, even though it doesn't =
include any vulnerability or exploit, me too. Sorry about that folks !)

So, everybody who feels publicly humiliated by this email or who wants =
to rant on any other non full-disclosure subject: I can be contacted at =
skylined () edup tudelft nl, If you feel I've wronged you: write ME; if you =
can convince me that you are right, I'll personally apologise on =
full-disclosure and reinstate your h4x0r status for you ;)

Also, I you agree with me on this subject, please do not post to =
full-disclosure just to tell everybody you do: nobody cares. I propose =
that everybody who's subscribed to this list SPAMS anybody who posts =
another useless flare. I personally intend to.

Berend-Jan Wever aka SkyLined
http://sppor12.edup.tudelft.nl

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is not a disclosure, just another =
attempt to=20
stop these nonsense flares on this new list. Please delete if you are =
not=20
interested with my apologies for bothering you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) I feel that if you have a problem =
with stuff=20
like '[Full-disclosure]' being added to the email's topic, that this is =
your=20
personal problem: deal with it yourself and stop whining to people who =
really=20
don't care. By subscribing to this list, I assume you have basic =
knowledge of=20
computer programming: write a small program or script&nbsp;that filters =
your=20
email and removes this from the subject line. I personally am all in =
favor of=20
these additions to the subject line.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Could everybody=20
who doesn't have any information or disclosure&nbsp;to post, please not =
post at=20
all ? Just to take a random &nbsp;example, </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I=20
quote martin f krafft:</FONT></DIV>
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>also sprach Nomen Nescio &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nobody () dizum com">nobody () dizum com</A>&gt; =
[2002.07.12.0350=20
+0200]:<BR>&gt; Bugtraq moderator will not post your message if you are =
GOBBLES=20
or not liked.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>because GOBBLES is =
ridiculous!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; death to anti.security.ls<BR>&gt; =
death to=20
project mayhem<BR>&gt; Security Focus wants to be to security what =
Microsoft is=20
to desktop<BR>&gt; Does not ISS own this title</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you apparently have no clue. just shut =
up,=20
please.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV>
<HR>
</DIV>
<DIV>True: If you have no clue, please shut up, that goes for anybody =
that=20
doesn't have any usefull information to post <STRONG>which includes you=20
martin</STRONG>.</DIV>
<DIV>(And because I feel I have to post this message, even though it =
doesn't=20
include any vulnerability or exploit, me too. Sorry about that folks =
!)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>So, everybody who feels publicly humiliated by this email or who =
wants to=20
rant on any other non full-disclosure subject:&nbsp;I can be contacted =
at <A=20
href=3D"mailto:skylined () edup tudelft nl">skylined () edup tudelft nl</A>, =
If you feel=20
I've wronged you: write <STRONG>ME</STRONG>; if you can convince me that =
you are=20
right, I'll personally apologise on full-disclosure and reinstate your =
h4x0r=20
status for you ;)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Also, I you agree with me on this subject, please do not post to=20
full-disclosure just to tell everybody you do: nobody cares. I propose =
that=20
everybody who's subscribed to this list SPAMS anybody who posts another =
useless=20
flare. I personally intend to.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Berend-Jan Wever aka SkyLined</DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://sppor12.edup.tudelft.nl";>http://sppor12.edup.tudelft.nl</A=
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