Full Disclosure: Re: Microsoft win2003server phone home

["Gaurav Kumar" <gaurav () e2-labs com>]

jeeesus,

where's the manager? someone throw these kiddies out
puhleese.

u call me script kiddie, may i know if u r not?
r u  master of internet securitiy technologies?
i hope one learns by studying some material and then try of its own. did all
the knowledge u have was acquired automatically?probably not.

will you read the license agreement to the part where
it talks about the update ?

the agreement says the info will be sent to microsoft. r u sure?
how does it establish identity without using any digital certificate.

we are here to learn and grow. not to fight.

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Gaurav Kumar
Chief Information Security Analyst

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----- Original Message -----
From: "manohar singh" <seclistaddress () yahoo com>
To: "Gaurav Kumar" <gaurav () e2-labs com>
Cc: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft win2003server phone home


jeeesus,

where's the manager? someone throw these kiddies out
puhleese.

will you read the license agreement to the part where
it talks about the update ?

!

Gaurav Kumar <gaurav () e2-labs com> wrote: 1. Is this
behavior normal for a windows server installation ?
i think that this behavour is normal bcoz as u analyse
that session u will get to know that server is trying
to update something

2. Could this behavior be considered as a violation
of privacy ?
this surely a case of violation of privacy as it is
not mentioned in agreement. go ahead, sue micro$oft.

3. Could it be considered as a security risk to let
a newly installed server,
request information from an arbitrary server that I
have no control over ?
yes its a security risk bcoz it is not even using pki
to establish identity of the server.


Gaurav Kumar

Chief Information Security Analyst
E2 Labs Information Security Pvt. Ltd.
Hyderbad-34
AP
India

Phone(s)-
Mobile +91 40 31068650
Tele/Fax +91 40 23555942 (ext-24)
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----- Original Message ----- From: "gyrniff"
<b240503 () gyrniff dk>
To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft win2003server
phone home



> After acquiring and installing a copy of 'Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition
> 180-Day Evaluation' I walked through the 'role
wizard', used the 'custom
> role config' and selected everything ;-)
> After reboot the server made two POST request to
microsoft controlled
> webserveres without any notification. One request to
activex.micrisoft.com
> and one to codecs.microsoft.com, the data posted to
the two severs was the
> same. (See the request and responds below.)
>
> I can find no information in the license agreement
about giving away
> 'information' behind my back.
>
> My question:
> 1. Is this behavior normal for a windows server
installation ?
> 2. Could this behavior be considered as a violation
of privacy ?
> 3. Could it be considered as a security risk to let
a newly installed server,
> request information from an arbitrary server that I
have no control over ?
> ****
>
> Posted data to activex.microsoft.com:
> POST /objects/ocget.dll HTTP/1.1
> Accept: application/x-cabinet-win32-x86,
application/x-pe-win32-x86,
> application/octet-stream, application/x-setupscript,
*/*
> Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
> Accept-Language: da
> Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
Windows NT 5.2; .NET CLR
> 1.1.4322)
> Host: activex.microsoft.com
> Content-Length: 44
> Connection: Keep-Alive
> Cache-Control: no-cache
>
> CLSID={FC7D9E02-3F9E-11D3-93C0-00C04F72DAF7}
>
> The reply:
> HTTP/1.1 404 Object Not Found
> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:48:38 GMT
> Connection: close
> Content-Type: text/html
> Content-Length: 102
>
> <html><head><title>Error</title></head><body>The
system cannot find the file
> specified. </body></html>
>
> ***
>
> Postede data to codecs.microsoft.com
> POST /isapi/ocget.dll HTTP/1.1
> Accept: application/x-cabinet-win32-x86,
application/x-pe-win32-x86,
> application/octet-stream, application/x-setupscript,
*/*
> Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
> Accept-Language: da
> Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
Windows NT 5.2; .NET CLR
> 1.1.4322)
> Host: codecs.microsoft.com
> Content-Length: 44
> Connection: Keep-Alive
> Cache-Control: no-cache
>
> CLSID={FC7D9E02-3F9E-11D3-93C0-00C04F72DAF7}
>
> And the reply:
> HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
> Connection: close
> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:47:54 GMT
> Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
> P3P:
policyref="http://www.microsoft.com/w3c/p3p.xml";
CP="ALL IND DSP COR ADM
> CONo CUR CUSo IVAo IVDo PSA PSD TAI TELo OUR SAMo
CNT COM INT NAV ONL PHY PRE
> PUR UNI"
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>
>
> /Gyrniff
>
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